Re: low-MHz server

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To: Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@...>
Cc: OpenBSD <misc@...>, ropers <ropers@...>
Date: Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 7:21 pm

On Wednesday 30 January 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

Voltage is, by definition, potential difference. You can burry two
plates of metal a meter apart from each other and get voltage. When you
subject those plates to an increased electro-magnetic field, you get
more voltage.

http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/history/bain.html

> It all seems strange. Yes, I know the physics of it, but before this

Yes and no. Doing it "right" in a research environment means you'll pay
extrodinate amounts of money for accurate and sensitive measurement
equipment (as well as a specialized buildng to use the equipment
without interference).

*BUT* doing it on the cheap is perfectly possible. One of the most
fiendishly clever things I've ever seen done was by a "Bring-Up
Engineer" (i.e. the guys who debug the initial "bring-up" of newly
created circuit board designs) at a poor startup. A very
mysterious "something" was causing a component to behave erratically
when the power was on but the component tested out perfectly on all of
the prototypes. Since there was no way we could afford proper
equipment, the guy took a very thin copper wire, wound it around a
pencil a few times, separated the coil a bit so it wasn't touching
anywhere, then attached a ohm-meter. He ran it over the running board
to figure out if the problem was due to significant interference
causing the part to malfunction. Sure enough he found it, as well as
the source, made a make-shift faraday cage around the source and
everything worked.

Debugging your wife (if you pardon the analagy) is really not much
different; the goal is simply finding and eliminating the sources of
the interference.

-JCR

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low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 2:35 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, michael hamerski, (Sat Feb 2, 8:20 am)
Re: low-MHz server, J.C. Roberts, (Thu Jan 31, 6:58 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Marcus Andree, (Thu Jan 31, 7:29 am)
Re: low-MHz server, Marc Balmer, (Thu Jan 31, 7:04 am)
Re: low-MHz server, scott, (Wed Jan 30, 11:45 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, johan beisser, (Thu Jan 31, 3:10 am)
Re: low-MHz server, scott, (Thu Jan 31, 2:36 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Nick Holland, (Wed Jan 30, 11:39 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Paul D. Ouderkirk, (Wed Jan 30, 11:17 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Woodchuck, (Thu Jan 31, 3:04 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, bofh, (Thu Jan 31, 6:32 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Thu Jan 31, 12:10 am)
Re: low-MHz server, Sherwood Botsford, (Fri Feb 1, 1:28 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Frank Bax, (Fri Feb 1, 1:48 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Jussi Peltola, (Wed Jan 30, 11:14 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Thu Jan 31, 12:08 am)
Re: low-MHz server, patrick, (Thu Jan 31, 3:10 am)
Re: low-MHz server, Jussi Peltola, (Thu Jan 31, 12:49 am)
Re: low-MHz server, scott, (Wed Jan 30, 10:21 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, , (Wed Jan 30, 5:42 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 6:33 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, STeve Andre', (Wed Jan 30, 3:02 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 5:28 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Daniel A. Ramaley, (Wed Jan 30, 3:11 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, ropers, (Wed Jan 30, 8:43 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 9:18 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, chefren, (Thu Jan 31, 2:34 am)
Re: low-MHz server, J.C. Roberts, (Thu Jan 31, 7:30 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Vivek Ayer, (Fri Feb 1, 10:03 am)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 4:48 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, J.C. Roberts, (Thu Jan 31, 6:51 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, ropers, (Wed Jan 30, 9:27 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Steve Shockley, (Wed Jan 30, 7:09 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 8:26 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Marcus Andree, (Wed Jan 30, 3:47 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 4:58 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, ropers, (Wed Jan 30, 9:11 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 9:50 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, J.C. Roberts, (Thu Jan 31, 7:21 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Nick Gustas, (Wed Jan 30, 11:47 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Thu Jan 31, 12:18 am)
Re: low-MHz server, bofh, (Wed Jan 30, 3:41 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, ropers, (Wed Jan 30, 8:17 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, bofh, (Wed Jan 30, 8:28 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 4:50 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, bofh, (Wed Jan 30, 5:48 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 8:01 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Lord Sporkton, (Wed Jan 30, 2:54 pm)
Re: low-MHz server, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Jan 30, 4:43 pm)