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Allie Daneman
Following Current general question
I finally have a box that's semi-production to run current on. I've read the FAQ on how to do the install and CVS updates but was wondering how people generally deal with keeping their -current, current ;) Do most people just have cvs update cronjobs ? Run a cvs update by hand ? Do you have to keep an eye on the "Following Current" page for other changes ? Thanks in advance for any feedback. -- ~Allie D.
Sep 8, 10:17 am 2007
Nick Holland
Re: Following Current general question
If your goal is RUNNING -current, cvs really need not play a part in it. Grab a snapshot, install it, run it. Keep an eye on "Following Current" for the things that will break, but if you are running snaps, even that is minimal. Worrying about cvs when running -current is pretty much for people who want to hack on the code directly. Nick.
Sep 8, 12:12 pm 2007
Adriaan
Re: Following Current general question
I prefer to install binary snapshots. With the "bsd.rd" kernel, a local ftp server for the install and customized "site42.tgz" and "site42-hostname.tgz" sets a fresh install is done faster then a recompile on my <1000Mhz boxes. =Adriaan=
Sep 8, 10:57 am 2007
snowcrash+openbsd
using spamd to grey-TRAP *only*, with *no* grey-LIST del ...
hi, i'd like to use 'spamd' for GREYTRAPPING only, with NO delay-via-GREYLISTING. i.e., other than mail to defined TRAPS and fully-blacklisted domains, no delay on inbound mmail. looking at config, i think i can achieve that by setting "passtime", via "-Gx:y:z", equal to zero. though it seems straighforward enough, i've never found any reference to such usage. any comments as to whether this'll achieve what i'm hoping for -- or, more importantly, break something? thanks!
Sep 8, 10:03 am 2007
Miod Vallat
Re: Is this a filesystem bug?
> It's not a bug, see mount(2). You meant mount(8). Miod
Sep 8, 12:07 pm 2007
Theo de Raadt
Re: Is this a filesystem bug?
I am not sure I agree with this. These are implimentation details as to how mounts work (and always have), and describing them like this as
Sep 8, 1:49 pm 2007
Woodchuck
Re: Is this a filesystem bug?
You're clearly accessing /backups/.. according to the permissions (700) of the mount point, /backups, not the root directory of the mounted volume, which is what you see with ls and stat for /backups after the mount. (This can be demonstrated by umounting /backups, chmoding /backups to 750, remounting and trying again.) As far as I know, this is normal operation for ffs/BSD. My *guess* is that this feature may serve to stifle a way of leveraging permissions through mounting, but, I ...
Sep 8, 10:27 am 2007
Antti Harri
Is this a filesystem bug?
Hello, First just plain directory with mode=700: drwx------ 43 root wheel 2048 Sep 7 22:24 /backups/ Then I mount filesystem under /backups: /dev/sd0i on /backups type ffs (local, softdep) drwxr-x--- 43 root wheel 2048 Sep 7 22:24 /backups/ The permissions changed, so far good because I've changed the modes of the mounted volume to 750. Then as a normal user belonging to 'wheel' I do: $ ls -la /backups/ ls: /backups/..: Permission denied [rest of the ...
Sep 8, 9:30 am 2007
Antti Harri
Re: Is this a filesystem bug?
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Although I'm still curious about the reason. Here's the section included for the archives: CAVEATS After a successful mount, the permissions on the original mount point de- termine if ``..'' is accessible from the mounted file system. The mini- mum permissions for the mount point for traversal across the mount point in both directions to be possible for all users is 0111 (execute for all). -- Antti Harri
Sep 8, 12:15 pm 2007
Ingo Schwarze
Re: Is this a filesystem bug?
All the same, in view of the code in /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c, function lookup, near ISDOTDOT, please consider: Index: mount.2 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/src/lib/libc/sys/mount.2,v retrieving revision 1.38 diff -u -r1.38 mount.2 --- mount.2 1 Jun 2007 06:27:57 -0000 1.38 +++ mount.2 8 Sep 2007 20:37:44 -0000 @@ -67,7 +67,9 @@ Any files in .Fa dir at the time -of a successful mount are swept under the carpet, ...
Sep 8, 1:44 pm 2007
Otto Moerbeek
Re: Is this a filesystem bug?
It's not a bug, see mount(2). -Otto
Sep 8, 11:58 am 2007
Jonathan Gray
Re: Reboot (ACPI?) problems on a Fujitsu Siemens RX100 S3
acpi currently uses the old style methods. This patch against -current makes machines reboot via ACPI, and fixed one such quirky machine here. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=118839561916609&w=2
Sep 8, 6:29 am 2007
Johan Linner
Reboot (ACPI?) problems on a Fujitsu Siemens RX100 S3
Hi, We've just installed 4.1-stable on a Fujitsu-Siemens RX100 S3. When we try to reboot or shutdown the server, it hangs after the "Syncing Disks... Done." message. Only way to continue is to hit the power switch. Tried bsd and bsd.mp with and without acpi enabled without any luck, plus a lot of different settings in the BIOS. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of problem? /Johan Linnir Dmesg: OpenBSD 4.1-stable (GENERIC) #0: Tue Jul 17 00:10:36 PDT 2007 ...
Sep 8, 6:09 am 2007
Benoit Chesneau
Re: problem sata with asus m2v-mx motherboard
disable isadma and enabled acpi, acpiec ash shwo this dmesg : http://metavers.net/~benoitc/dmesg_20070908-2 -- bchesneau.info | neurofriends.net | osbud.net
Sep 8, 6:40 am 2007
Mark Kettenis
Re: problem sata with asus m2v-mx motherboard
Hi Benoit, is highly suspicious, especially since your machine also has pciide0. Can you send me dmesg for the following cases too: GENERIC with acpi enabled GENERIC.MP GENERIC.MP with acpi enabled and the output of # acpidump -o M2N-MX The latter produces several files; please create a tar file that contains them and send me that. Hopefully this will help me figuring out what goes wrong here. Thanks, Mark
Sep 8, 4:05 am 2007
Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
Re: problem sata with asus m2v-mx motherboard
Enabled acpi", AND "disabled isadma" (as you previously said - with the "and"), or (now) *just* "enabled acpi"? Pls be clear about things... -jf -- In the meantime, here is your PSA: "It's so hard to write a graphics driver that open-sourcing it would not help." -- Andrew Fear, Software Product Manager, NVIDIA Corporation http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
Sep 8, 6:00 am 2007
Benoit Chesneau
Re: problem sata with asus m2v-mx motherboard
Sorry I didn't see your mail first. It was marked as spam :/ Here is the file for MP. I don't have a generic kernel (non mp) kernel on this machine. But could install it if needed : http://metavers.net/~benoitc/acpidump-mp.tar.gz Anyyway enabled acpi solved my problem. - benoit -- bchesneau.info | neurofriends.net | osbud.net
Sep 8, 5:32 am 2007
Greg Thomas
Re: Problem with setting up printer
This is all I have in my printcap, works fine if I use rp from apps or with postcript files, and rptext for plain text files. rp|remote line printer|brother:\ :lp=:rm=brother:rp=POSTSCRIPT_P1:sd=/var/spool/output:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: rptext|remote text printer:\ :lp=:rm=brother:rp=TEXT_P1:sd=/var/spool/output:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: Greg -- Ticketmaster and Ticketweb suck, but everyone knows that: http://ticketmastersucks.org Dethink to survive - Mclusky
Sep 8, 9:44 am 2007
Aaron W. Hsu
Re: Problem with setting up printer
Thanks for this, This does not work for Postscript files or files sent from my applications. For some reason it seems like it does not recognize the file as postscript or This works when printing text files. -- ((name "Aaron Hsu") (email/xmpp "arcfide@sacrificumdeo.net") (phone "703-597-7656") (site "http://www.aaronhsu.com"))
Sep 8, 2:59 pm 2007
Aaron Hsu
Problem with setting up printer
Hey all, I've been trying to get my Brother 2070n printer to work for a bit now, and I'm a bit confused about why it won't work. It's supposed to be a pretty straightforward Postscript printer, and in the web configuration there are postcript, text, and pcl services, as well as binary printing. It supports lpd printing, and I have been trying to use apsfilter to setup the printcap file. Now, I found the Open Printing Database that indicates that either hl1250, generic PCL6, or pxlmono ...
Sep 7, 11:39 pm 2007
Alexander Hall
Re: Is it possible to fix a stale NFS hadle without rebooting?
Ok, that's good to know. However, using udp mounts, I experienced the mount point and terminal lockups that the OP mentioned when the mount did not succeed. I finally tracked it down to the fact that I was connecting to the non-default ip address of a host with multiple ip addresses without using the -c flag to mount_nfs. I realise that is was my own fault, but I would not expect the lockup situation. /Alexander
Sep 8, 3:53 am 2007
Henning Brauer
Re: Is it possible to fix a stale NFS hadle without rebooting?
udp is the default. do not use nfs over tcp, is never was and is not anywhere close to reliable. -- Henning Brauer, hb@bsws.de, henning@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg & Amsterdam
Sep 8, 12:16 am 2007
Maurice Janssen
Re: Is it possible to fix a stale NFS hadle without rebooting?
Then maybe it's a good idea to use UDP in the fstab(5) example? Maurice Index: share/man/man5/fstab.5 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/src/share/man/man5/fstab.5,v retrieving revision 1.40 diff -u -r1.40 fstab.5 --- share/man/man5/fstab.5 1 Jun 2007 05:37:14 -0000 1.40 +++ share/man/man5/fstab.5 8 Sep 2007 07:52:16 -0000 @@ -279,7 +279,7 @@ /dev/sd0j /usr/src ffs rw,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2 /dev/sd1b none swap sw 0 ...
Sep 8, 12:56 am 2007
Benoit Chesneau
Re: problem sata with asus m2v-mx motherboard
Withe the link it's better : http://metavers.net/~benoitc/acpidump-mp.tar.gz -- bchesneau.info | neurofriends.net | osbud.net
Sep 8, 5:33 am 2007
Benoit Chesneau
Re: problem sata with asus m2v-mx motherboard
solved. Disabled isadma and enabled acpi, acpiec did the trick. - benont
Sep 8, 5:15 am 2007
Benoit Chesneau
Re: problem sata with asus m2v-mx motherboard
I continued to trry to install openbsd on this machine. It appear that when I disable isa and isadma the mpachine boot. But I can't login . Have this error message : "nfe0: watchdog timeout". Any idee ? Seems there is a conflict smewhere between isa and pci. Here is a diff from installation iso dmesg. -------------------------------------- --- dmesg_200700906-2 2007-09-08 00:24:52.000000000 +0200 +++ test 2007-09-08 00:23:30.000000000 +0200 @@ -1,57 +1,392 @@ -OpenBSD 4.1 (GENERIC) ...
Sep 8, 12:53 am 2007
Tonnerre LOMBARD
Re: comics and recurring donations Was: Show your apprec ...
Salut, I think it is a very important aspect to understand that noone will do your work for you in a reasonable timeframe in a project that you will find respectable. Your best chances to get new things in or bugs fixed is to send a PR along with a patch to the developers; but from time to time not even that will do it. Good that you realized it, though. I think that people who did are the force which is driving Open Source. Tonnerre [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type ...
Sep 8, 1:51 am 2007
Sam Fourman Jr.
Re: OpenBSD 4.2 Question
Thank you Everyone for your response, the information was very helpful Sam Fourman Jr.
Sep 7, 9:48 pm 2007
William Boshuck
Re: Show your appreciation and get your 4.2 DVD
When I started using OpenBSD I was middle-aged and largely computer illiterate (I have never had a computer that runs Windows, and probably I will never learn how to use a word processor or a spreadsheet). I can't swear to it, but I don't think I have asked for technical help on misc@; the man pages and the FAQ helped to resolve every difficulty I can recall having encountered. (Caveat: Perhaps I have modest needs; also, I have a little patience and I like to read.) The price of the CD ...
Sep 8, 9:49 am 2007
Shawn K. Quinn
Re: filesystems?
There do exist ext2fs drivers for Windows; obviously anything which boots the kernel, Linux, can read and write ext2fs. There may well exist UFS drivers for Windows but I haven't looked. (I only use OpenBSD on my firewall/router.) If you can live with the limitations of FAT32, then you may want to use that; fragmentation really isn't as much of an issue if it's a solid state device (you don't say). I personally find it ludicrous not to be able to use a filename on a Unix-like OS that wasn't ...
Sep 8, 6:16 am 2007
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