Re: New user help

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From: Adrian Fisher
Subject: New user help
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 - 1:40 am

Hello there,

I recently began to read about OpenBSD with a view to installing it on
my home system (I am somewhat new to Unix) and while I was able to
install the base system without any problems I was unable to find
clear instructions or pointers on how to go on from there.

I wish to install the system then install and use the KDE interface
and use CVSync to update all source and follow the stable branch.  I
am confident that if someone was to send me details of how to
accomplish this I would be able to learn much more about the system
and how to use it.

At the moment I use Ubuntu and come from an M$ background so want to
learn as much as possible.  I sometimes make mistakes (as can be seen
in my previous post but I am improving).

Thanks in advance.

A.

From: Peter N. M. Hansteen
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 - 2:07 am

You did install the *tgz parts? 

If so, you should be ready to fetch and install packages such as the
various kde bits from your favorite mirror as per the FAQ's packages

it's not really that hard, for sure. You may want to spend a little
time browsing the faq, for these issues the "building the system from
source" at <http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html> may be worth
reading.

Other useful alternatives for fetching source is csup (pkg_add csup) 
and its ancestor cvsup.  See which one appeals to you.

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.

From: Peter N. M. Hansteen
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 - 2:16 am

sorry, that came out wrong, it should have been 'x*tgz parts'. 

I do need more coffee.

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.

From: Stuart Henderson
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 - 2:39 am

Good start; the best way forward is to play around with the system
and learn your way around the documentation. As a new user, you're in
a good position to help identify areas that could benefit from more
detail, adjustments, or even just linking between sections.

Coming from MS and "desktop" Linux it might require a slight
change of mindset to trust the documentation, but it's one you need

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html should help you get that
installed. As Peter pointed out you need to have the X file sets
too, if you missed them, the easiest way to add them is to boot
the installer and do an upgrade install. (The normal way to

You'll find more about cvsync and building the OS from source
on www.openbsd.org, but there's plenty more to learn as it is.
There's really no hurry to get into source builds.

I don't know what you already know, but I'd suggest vi or mg,
basic use of pkg_* tools, grep, locate, man as all being good
to learn early.

From: Vim Visual
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 - 3:03 am

For the kde thing, try something like

-----------------------------------------------------------
pkg_add curl

curl ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/ | awk
'{print $NF}' > /tmp/curl.out


for package in `grep -i ^wget /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdebase
/tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdelibs /tmp/curl.out`\
               `grep -i ^kdeaddons /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdeadmin
/tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdeartwork /tmp/curl.out` \
               `grep -i ^kdeedu /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdegames
/tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdegraphics /tmp/curl.out` \
               `grep -i ^kdemultimedia /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i
^kdenetwork /tmp/curl.out` \
               `grep -i ^kdepim /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdesdk
/tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdetoys /tmp/curl.out` \
               `grep -i ^kdeutils /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kde-i18n-ca
/tmp/curl.out`
do
        if ! pkg_add ${package} ; then
                echo pkg_add of ${package} failed 1>&2
        fi
done
-----------------------------------------------------

I have a big script to automatically install the software I always use
from a recent snapshot (-current, in development), plus PF, plus
antialiasing, plus X set-up etc etc. If you're interested, I can post
it

Cheers

Pau Amaro-Seoane

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