Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?

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Date: Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 10:53 am

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
...

That's where you are supposed to 1) recognize that my mysteriously
mangled e-mail address is me and 2) Read back to my previous statement
where I stated that I don't feel VM technology is suitable for
externally exposed apps or security critical apps and 3) catch the
implied sarcastic sneer in "If one believed in the idea of 'a perfect
VM environment'"

Yes, very separate is what I was recommending: no VM, keep them as
separate as possible. When appropriate, of course.

VMware and related technologies look cool, but it's an extra layer
of complexity and security vulnerabilities. It is also a technology
where the track record is "Coolness first, security when they catch
us with our pants down". It is also something that is rarely done
properly (for my definition of "properly"), but that's a different
discussion for a different list.

Nick.

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OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Josh, (Thu Sep 20, 9:09 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Die Gestalt, (Mon Sep 24, 8:56 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, David Gwynne, (Mon Sep 24, 7:59 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Eduardo Tongson, (Sat Sep 22, 11:12 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Bryan Irvine, (Fri Sep 21, 7:09 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Kent Watsen, (Fri Sep 21, 8:07 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Scott Wells, (Fri Sep 21, 9:19 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Douglas A. Tutty, (Fri Sep 21, 10:52 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Douglas A. Tutty, (Sat Sep 22, 12:36 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Nick Holland, (Sat Sep 22, 10:53 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Douglas A. Tutty, (Sat Sep 22, 11:36 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Luca Corti, (Fri Sep 21, 11:17 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Henning Brauer, (Sat Sep 22, 7:29 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, bofh, (Fri Sep 21, 3:29 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Luca Corti, (Fri Sep 21, 5:15 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Stuart Henderson, (Fri Sep 21, 3:51 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Luca Corti, (Fri Sep 21, 5:16 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Claudio Jeker, (Fri Sep 21, 6:34 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Luca Corti, (Fri Sep 21, 8:06 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Luca Corti, (Sat Sep 22, 7:35 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, n0g0013, (Sat Sep 22, 8:12 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Tony Sarendal, (Fri Sep 21, 7:10 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Darren Spruell, (Fri Sep 21, 10:48 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Ted Unangst, (Fri Sep 21, 4:28 pm)
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Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Tony Sarendal, (Fri Sep 21, 8:58 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Nick Holland, (Thu Sep 20, 9:52 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Darren Spruell, (Sat Sep 22, 7:45 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Darren Spruell, (Fri Sep 21, 2:18 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Craig Skinner, (Fri Sep 21, 4:03 am)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, Jason Dixon, (Thu Sep 20, 9:35 pm)
Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?, bofh, (Thu Sep 20, 9:53 pm)
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