Re: Wasting our Freedom

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To: J.C. Roberts <jcroberts@...>
Cc: Jason Dixon <jason@...>, Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...>, Jeff Garzik <jeff@...>, Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@...>, <misc@...>, <bkuhn@...>, <fontana@...>, <karen@...>, <moglen@...>, <norwood@...>, <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:10 am

On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:22:28AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:

You could equally say that
"OpenBSD != University of California, Berkeley"

was wrong since OpenBSD uses the licence of the UCB. [1]

Or that
"OpenBSD != NetBSD"

was wrong since OpenBSD is just a spinoff of NetBSD, and for everyday
people all the *BSD operating systems are anyway the same.

Or that
"OpenBSD != Linux kernel"

was wrong since although they are not equal, they are related since they
are both open source operating systems.

Or even that
"OpenBSD != FSF"

was wrong.

In case you wonder about the latter, check at [2] whose project's
project leaders won the FSF's Award for the Advancement of Free Software
and whose project's project leader did not.

The FSF and the Linux kernel community have some relationship, but they
are quite distinct communities with different views on some things.

As an example, Linus Torvalds made clear some years ago that the kernel
is GPLv2 only and will stay GPLv2 forever. This makes it impossible to
move the kernel to the FSF's new GPLv3. If you have such differences in
mind it sounds ridiculous when people don't differentiate between the
FSF and the Linux kernel community.

> kind regards,

cu
Adrian

[1] I don't know the background of the 2-clause BSD licence, but at
least for the 3-clause and 4-clause BSD licences this was true
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Award_for_the_Advancement_of_Free_Software

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"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Thu Sep 13, 11:09 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Toni Mueller, (Thu Oct 11, 2:05 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Karl Sjodahl - dunceor, (Fri Oct 12, 1:00 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, knitti, (Thu Oct 11, 4:37 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Sat Sep 15, 6:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Kyle Moffett, (Sun Sep 16, 3:32 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Rob, (Sun Sep 16, 4:02 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Sun Sep 16, 3:52 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Kyle Moffett, (Sun Sep 16, 4:23 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Sun Sep 16, 6:05 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David H. Lynch Jr., (Sun Sep 16, 12:40 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Peter Philipp, (Sun Sep 16, 9:50 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 4:12 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Sun Sep 16, 5:17 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Sun Sep 16, 4:33 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 16, 11:23 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 4:08 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Mon Sep 17, 4:22 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 10:10 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 10:44 am)
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Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), J.C. Roberts, (Sun Sep 16, 2:11 pm)
Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), Lars Noodén, (Sun Sep 16, 10:24 am)
Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), Marc Espie, (Sun Sep 16, 10:00 am)
Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), Constantine A. Murenin, (Sun Sep 16, 10:42 am)
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Re: Wasting our Freedom, bofh, (Sat Sep 15, 9:42 am)
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