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To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@...>
Cc: Can E. Acar <can.acar@...>, <misc@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...>, Eben Moglen <moglen@...>, Lawrence Lessig <lessig_from_web@...>, Bradley M. Kuhn <bkuhn@...>, Matt Norwood <norwood@...>
Date: Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 4:39 pm

Hi!

On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:59:09PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:


JFTR, I do *not* think that that assessment was questionable. Unless the
dual-licensing *explicitly* allows relicensing, relicensing is forbidden
by copyright law. The dual-licensing allows relicensing only if that's
*explicitly* stated, either in the statement offering the alternative, or
in one of the licenses.

Neither GPL nor BSD/ISC allow relicensing in their well-known wordings.

If you think that's questionable, you should at least provide arguments
(and be ready to have your interpretation of the law and the licenses
tested before court).



But the BSDl does not allow you to relicense the original code, even
while it allows you to license copyrightable additions/modifications
under different terms with few restrictions.

However, you say "regarding ethics" and just go back to the legal level.
Is it really ethical, if you consider both Linux and OpenBSD part of one
OSS "community", to share things only in one direction? To take the
reverse engineered HAL but to not allow OpenBSD to take some
modifications back?



A difference is, GPL requires it under every circumstance. BSD does not,
indeed. But how should one expect it from *OSS* people that even *they*
don't give back? Do you really want to put yourself on the same level as
closed-source companies?


Kind regards,

Hannah.
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Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Sun Sep 16, 2:48 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 3:40 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 3:59 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Sun Sep 16, 4:39 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Sep 16, 5:13 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 5:20 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 9:38 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 11:25 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 12:18 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Paul de Weerd, (Mon Sep 17, 11:15 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 11:38 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Paul de Weerd, (Mon Sep 17, 2:02 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 2:32 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Paul de Weerd, (Mon Sep 17, 3:27 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Mon Sep 17, 3:09 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 3:44 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Mon Sep 17, 3:50 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Sun Sep 16, 5:12 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Claudio Jeker, (Mon Sep 17, 8:55 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 9:34 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Claudio Jeker, (Mon Sep 17, 3:23 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 4:43 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Henning Brauer, (Tue Sep 18, 5:00 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Sep 18, 7:29 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Tue Sep 18, 8:56 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Tue Sep 18, 7:34 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Alan Cox, (Tue Sep 18, 8:24 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Sep 18, 1:15 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Gilles Chehade, (Tue Sep 18, 7:28 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Denis Doroshenko, (Tue Sep 18, 11:47 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, frantisek holop, (Tue Sep 18, 11:55 am)
Re: Wasting our Bandwidth, Xavier Bestel, (Tue Sep 18, 8:04 am)
Re: Wasting our Bandwidth, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Sep 18, 8:24 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Mon Sep 17, 6:06 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 7:47 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Tue Sep 18, 2:55 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Martin Schlemmer, (Tue Sep 18, 6:24 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Sep 18, 3:37 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Lennart Sorensen, (Tue Sep 18, 3:04 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Tue Sep 18, 3:51 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Dries Schellekens, (Mon Sep 17, 7:07 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 7:18 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 9:39 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 11:20 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 4:35 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 5:09 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 7:35 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 8:03 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Al Viro, (Mon Sep 17, 8:44 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 3:50 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Mon Sep 17, 8:19 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Sun Sep 16, 7:16 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, , (Sun Sep 16, 7:40 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Ingo Schwarze, (Mon Sep 17, 7:56 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 8:01 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Henning Brauer, (Mon Sep 17, 5:30 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 8:57 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Ingo Schwarze, (Mon Sep 17, 5:39 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Mon Sep 17, 9:15 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hans-Jürgen Koch, (Mon Sep 17, 9:19 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Sean, (Mon Sep 17, 9:27 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Mon Sep 17, 9:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 9:42 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Helge Hafting, (Mon Sep 17, 3:47 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Mon Sep 17, 7:50 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Helge Hafting, (Tue Sep 18, 7:17 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David Newall, (Mon Sep 17, 9:28 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 16, 5:11 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Hannah Schroeter, (Mon Sep 17, 5:10 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David Schwartz, (Mon Sep 17, 8:08 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, frantisek holop, (Tue Sep 18, 9:58 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 16, 4:32 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Sun Sep 16, 11:00 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 8:10 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 11:32 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 17, 1:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Can E. Acar, (Mon Sep 17, 2:43 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Mon Sep 17, 3:36 am)
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