Am 16.09.2007 um 12:05 schrieb J.C. Roberts:
Can I ask a question here?  You're getting worked up over nothing.

Open Source doesn't

work without Open Hardware.  The level of the software is approaching a

good level to

  use for Open Hardware, IMO.  While it's your time to relax the

hardware hackers are at

turn now, don't you think?
Thanks.

-p
> On Sunday 16 September 2007, Kyle Moffett wrote:

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>> Secondly, what the HELL is with you guys and the personal

>> attacks?!?!?  You said I am "hopelessly misinformed, or a habitual

>> liar"???

>

> You are right and I apologize. I've received plenty of personal attacks

> from your group, and failed to hold my temper when dealing with you.

>

> You and the rest of the linux kernel devs need to realize there are a

> lot of angry people who are tired of being ignored by the powers that

> be in the GNU/FSF/GPL/SFLC. The claimed distinction between the linux

> kernel, the linux operating system, the various linux distros, the GNU

> project, the FSF, and the SFLC is pedantic at best to the rest of the

> outside world. As far as everyone else on the outside is concerned, you

> are all one large project working together.

>

> When some part of your project is indulging in code theft, it makes all

> of you look bad, regardless if it's upstream, downstream, sidestream or

> otherwise. When linux/gpl developers and linux/gpl lawyers refuse to

> take a stance against code theft, you look like one big happy family

> doing everything you can to put as much code as possible under your

> preferred license regardless if it's illegal or immoral.

>

> I knew darn well that I wouldn't be winning any new friends in the

> linux/gpl/gnu camp by voicing an unpopular opinion to your project, but

> after being ignored, you too would want to find the people on the other

> side with the spine to stand up and say code theft is wrong.

>

> Would you stand by quietly, tolerate being ignored, and accept delay

> tactics of unethical lawyers if the roles were reverse?

>

> Would you be willing to be called every untoward name in the book by

> voicing your dissenting opinions clearly and loudly?

>

> I have.

>

> jcr