Re: Wasting our Freedom

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To: J.C. Roberts <jcroberts@...>
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Date: Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 1:33 am

In the case of Ryek's code, the reverse is true but instead of admitting
the mistake and making the needed corrections, FSF has pulled out their
lawyers in hopes of getting away with the theft.

You have jumped to a false conclusion. The FSF is not involved in
this; Linux is not our project. Linux developers firmly guard their
independence and don't often follow our advice.

This appears to be a dispute between OpenBSD developers and some Linux
developers I do not know. I do not know what happened. What the
OpenBSD developers say is unreliable, because they also make
statements about the FSF that I know are false. To find out what
really happened, I would have to check on my own. I could do that,
but I have no reason to do that work. I am not inclined to do that
work to cater to demands from hostile people.

If the issue were about actions of the FSF or the GNU Project, I would
have a responsibility to check the facts and assure myself that we did
right. But the FSF and the GNU Project are not involved, and nobody
in this dispute is disposed to follow my advice. So I am not going to
give any.

I may write a general article about the ethics of applying the GNU GPL
to code released under lax permissive licenses, as I see it. But if I
do, it won't come out soon; I will take time to think about it.

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Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Thu Sep 13, 11:09 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Toni Mueller, (Thu Oct 11, 2:05 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Karl Sjodahl - dunceor, (Fri Oct 12, 1:00 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, knitti, (Thu Oct 11, 4:37 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Sat Sep 15, 6:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Kyle Moffett, (Sun Sep 16, 3:32 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Rob, (Sun Sep 16, 4:02 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Sun Sep 16, 3:52 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Kyle Moffett, (Sun Sep 16, 4:23 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Sun Sep 16, 6:05 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, David H. Lynch Jr., (Sun Sep 16, 12:40 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Peter Philipp, (Sun Sep 16, 9:50 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 4:12 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Sun Sep 16, 5:17 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Theodore Tso, (Sun Sep 16, 4:33 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Hazelton, (Sun Sep 16, 11:23 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 4:08 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, J.C. Roberts, (Mon Sep 17, 4:22 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Sep 17, 10:10 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Sep 17, 10:44 am)
Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), Eben Moglen, (Sun Sep 16, 9:17 am)
Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), J.C. Roberts, (Sun Sep 16, 2:11 pm)
Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), Lars Noodén, (Sun Sep 16, 10:24 am)
Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), Marc Espie, (Sun Sep 16, 10:00 am)
Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), Constantine A. Murenin, (Sun Sep 16, 10:42 am)
Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), David H. Lynch Jr., (Sun Sep 16, 12:05 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeff Garzik, (Sun Sep 16, 5:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Rene Herman, (Sun Sep 16, 4:29 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Richard Stallman, (Sun Sep 16, 1:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, bofh, (Sat Sep 15, 9:42 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Sat Sep 15, 10:15 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, bofh, (Sat Sep 15, 7:41 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Daniel Ouellet, (Sat Sep 15, 10:57 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jeremy Huiskamp, (Sun Sep 16, 1:12 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Marco Peereboom, (Sat Sep 15, 10:15 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jacob Meuser, (Sat Sep 15, 6:58 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff, (Fri Sep 14, 2:14 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Rob, (Fri Sep 14, 2:13 pm)
Re: Wasting our Freedom, Jason Dixon, (Fri Sep 14, 2:35 pm)
Divide and conquer (was Re: Wasting our Freedom), Lars Noodén, (Fri Sep 14, 5:33 am)
Re: Wasting our Freedom (WAKE UP PEOPLE), Jason Dixon, (Fri Sep 14, 7:33 am)