Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words

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From: Bob Beck
Date: Friday, September 14, 2007 - 7:14 am

* Craig Skinner <craig.skinner@kepax.co.uk> [2007-09-14 02:58]:


	Or maybe they wish to screw up both the BSD license and works
licensed under the the GPL (v2) as linux uses it - so they can push
forward the GPL v3 - which Linus doesn't like and won't distribute
linux under. 

	Let's not forget who the SFLC really is. They are an FSF spinoff.
I'd love to belive they are who they say they are - an unbiased
champion of free software of all types. But when one of the primary
people involved in it is the author of the GPL version 3, and they
start acting in ways like this that seem to be giving the people they
are supposed to be advising very bad advice, I can't help but think
there might be a hidden agenda there. 

	I mean, what better way to promote a complex, vague legal
document like the GPL v3 than creating acrimony between users of
both the established and relatively simple licensing methods and 
then stepping up and saying "see see, we're lawyers, and this complex
legal document is the way to fix it - put this on your code - you
don't need to understand the implications or details, we say it's
better, we're lawyers"

	Doesn't this simply sound like making free software developers
and users lose their freedoms and work they've authored? Who wins? 
probably the people who want to sell legal advice to people about
complying with the GPL. I guess it's great if you're a lawyer.

	-Bob
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The Atheros story in much fewer words, Theo de Raadt, (Wed Sep 12, 7:57 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Nick Holland, (Thu Sep 13, 4:09 am)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Marco Peereboom, (Thu Sep 13, 5:48 am)
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Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Darren Spruell, (Thu Sep 13, 10:16 am)
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Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Darren Spruell, (Thu Sep 13, 12:32 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Shawn K. Quinn, (Thu Sep 13, 12:37 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words , Theo de Raadt, (Thu Sep 13, 12:57 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, steve szmidt, (Thu Sep 13, 1:07 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Paul de Weerd, (Thu Sep 13, 1:15 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words , Theo de Raadt, (Thu Sep 13, 1:19 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Claudio Jeker, (Thu Sep 13, 1:26 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Thu Sep 13, 2:25 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Daniel Ouellet, (Thu Sep 13, 2:33 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Jeremy C. Reed, (Thu Sep 13, 2:41 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, bofh, (Thu Sep 13, 3:14 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, steve szmidt, (Thu Sep 13, 3:27 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Reiner Jung, (Thu Sep 13, 3:50 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Thu Sep 13, 3:58 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Marco Peereboom, (Thu Sep 13, 4:28 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Reiner Jung, (Thu Sep 13, 4:29 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Nick Holland, (Thu Sep 13, 9:30 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Paul de Weerd, (Thu Sep 13, 11:12 pm)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Fri Sep 14, 12:42 am)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Fri Sep 14, 12:44 am)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Fri Sep 14, 12:46 am)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Craig Skinner, (Fri Sep 14, 1:05 am)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Craig Skinner, (Fri Sep 14, 1:05 am)
Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Marc Espie, (Fri Sep 14, 1:46 am)
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Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Fri Sep 14, 7:58 am)
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Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Jack J. Woehr, (Fri Sep 14, 8:19 am)
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Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Tony Abernethy, (Sat Sep 15, 5:11 am)
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Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Sat Sep 15, 6:48 am)
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Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Sat Sep 15, 9:56 am)
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Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words, Marco Peereboom, (Sat Sep 15, 10:45 am)
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