Re: OpenBSD Install Goal

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Date: Friday, September 14, 2007 - 9:42 am

On 9/13/07, Jason Dixon wrote:

Oh noes, you don't understand. See, I have a shaggy dog tale that
demonstrates why people want the nice ncurses installer. And if you
give them a ncurses installer, now, they'll want an X based installer.
And if you...

Anyway, I used to work for a company uses novell, and we were a
contractor to a much bigger company for somethings. We wrote a "fax
replacement", so instead of faxing 20,000 pages a night, we scanned
and dropped it in a directory, and the mothership picked it up, and
used it. But they wanted to print as well (to their new printers),
and it would not print, obviously my application problem. I told my
boss they just needed their novell guy to set up the rights on the new
printers, but, my boss told me to go on down, for "customer service".
*sigh* So, I told them I need one of the users to be there, and
someone with admin rights.

I went. Brought up printcon, and other various things, peeked and
poked[1] around. Satisfied to myself that it was a rights issue,
pointed out to the "novell administrator" hanging around. Brought up
a dos box, and was doing things like pings and telnets, and the
"novell administrator" went "yucks, you're one of those DOS people". And this was mid/late 90s, win95/nt4 days.
Ignored him.

As I left, I overheard him complaining to a friend that he's been
there x months, and they have not given him any rights, and he doesn't
understand why, he is supergood+2, and knows everything, and so on and
so forth. Then he admitted he didn't know dos very well, and in fact,
took the dos class 3 times, and failed it 3 times.

And this, people, is why you need to have ncurses based installer.

Or not.

[1] Man, I used to be able to do some of that, and even knew what the
values were.
--
"This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity."
-- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.

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Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Bob Beck, (Thu Sep 13, 6:49 pm)
Re: : OpenBSD Install Goal, Raimo Niskanen, (Wed Sep 19, 6:03 am)
Re: : OpenBSD Install Goal, Nick Holland, (Wed Sep 19, 7:18 am)
Re: : OpenBSD Install Goal, Tony Sarendal, (Thu Sep 20, 3:58 am)
Re: : : OpenBSD Install Goal, Raimo Niskanen, (Wed Sep 19, 9:42 am)
Re: : : OpenBSD Install Goal, Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Sep 19, 12:22 pm)
Re: : : OpenBSD Install Goal, Steve Shockley, (Sat Sep 22, 2:33 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Craig Skinner, (Fri Sep 14, 4:48 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Steven, (Fri Sep 14, 12:44 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Craig Skinner, (Fri Sep 14, 4:02 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Rob, (Fri Sep 14, 2:03 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Steve McConville, (Fri Sep 14, 5:01 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, bofh, (Fri Sep 14, 9:47 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Karl Sjödahl - dunceor, (Fri Sep 14, 1:54 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Sam Fourman Jr., (Fri Sep 14, 2:16 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Marco Peereboom, (Thu Sep 13, 10:33 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, asdf, (Fri Sep 14, 9:55 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Shawn K. Quinn, (Sat Sep 15, 12:39 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Diana Eichert, (Sat Sep 15, 12:59 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Woodchuck, (Fri Sep 14, 8:49 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Breen Ouellette, (Fri Sep 14, 1:15 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Fergus Wilde, (Fri Sep 14, 4:12 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Edwards, David (JTS), (Thu Sep 13, 11:25 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Stuart Henderson, (Fri Sep 14, 3:36 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, , (Fri Sep 14, 3:32 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Paul de Weerd, (Fri Sep 14, 6:23 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Pau Amaro-Seoane, (Fri Sep 14, 6:55 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, K K, (Fri Sep 14, 5:42 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Pau Amaro-Seoane, (Fri Sep 14, 7:02 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Steve Shockley, (Thu Sep 13, 9:53 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Darren Spruell, (Thu Sep 13, 10:26 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Steve Shockley, (Thu Sep 13, 11:15 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal , Aaron W. Hsu, (Thu Sep 13, 11:05 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Allie Daneman, (Fri Sep 14, 10:33 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Stephan Andre', (Thu Sep 13, 8:35 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, RW, (Thu Sep 13, 9:14 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Daniel Ouellet, (Thu Sep 13, 9:39 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Jan Stary, (Tue Sep 18, 1:00 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Douglas A. Tutty, (Tue Sep 18, 6:44 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Stuart Henderson, (Tue Sep 18, 7:34 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Darren Spruell, (Tue Sep 18, 7:28 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Ulf G. Noren, (Thu Sep 20, 10:30 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Will Jenkins, (Thu Sep 20, 10:45 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, David Given, (Tue Sep 18, 7:16 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Jason Dixon, (Thu Sep 13, 8:12 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, bofh, (Fri Sep 14, 9:42 am)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Matthias Kilian, (Thu Sep 13, 7:26 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal, Jack J. Woehr, (Thu Sep 13, 7:37 pm)