On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:24:25PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

| > On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

| > >

| > > The spirit of the GNU GPL is to maintain freedom for all users.

| >

| > You don't seem to get the fact that the BSD license is *more free*

| > than the GPL because the BSD license imposes *fewer requirements*

| > on distribution.

|

| You don't seem to get the fact that I'm not even talking about what's

| more or less free (in your definition). The BSD has fewer requirements,

| but it allows some users to not have the freedoms you claim to defend.
And no, it does not.
What is released under the BSD license is more free (which is not what

you are talking about). But all the users of the code released under

the BSD license have the same freedoms. There's no difference for

'some' users, they're all the same .. even if 'some' users create baby

mulching machines from your code.
I know what argument you are trying to make, but you're not making it.

What is released under a BSD license is free software (in my

definition more free than what is released under the GPL). All users

of said code have the same freedoms (and the same duties : DO NOT

REMOVE THE LICENSE OR COPYRIGHT NOTICE).
| In my point of view, that is a social failure, which the GPL aims to end.
And in my previous e-mail, I tried pointing out that the GPL does very

little to end this. Unfortunately, you decided to not respond to the

arguments I made but in stead you replied with wordgames.
For arguments sake, lets say I've written a program that is of use to

many.
Scenario A, this code is released under the BSD license. You can take

it, improve it and never share your changes with anyone.
Scenario B, this code is released under the GPL license. You can take

it, improve it and never share your changes with anyone.
Where is the difference ? How did you avoid the social failure you

spoke of ?
I'll tell you where the difference is (with an example). You can sell

your changed version in scenario A but you can not sell it in scenario

B (given the 'never share your changes with anyone'-part). But you can

use it all you like.
Please, don't let others make your argument for you. You look rather

silly that way. [1]
I warmly welcome your new wordgames. [2]
Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
[1]: that was another insult.

[2]: that too.
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