On 2007-09-14 12:24:25, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

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> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:24:25 +0100

> From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra

> To: Sebastien Carlier ,

>         Paul de Weerd , misc@openbsd.org,

>         Richard Stallman

> Subject: Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words

> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12)

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> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:39:10AM +0000, Sebastien Carlier wrote:

> > Rui,

> >

> > On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

> > >

> > > The spirit of the GNU GPL is to maintain freedom for all users.

> >

> > You don't seem to get the fact that the BSD license is *more free*

> > than the GPL because the BSD license imposes *fewer requirements*

> > on distribution.

>

> You don't seem to get the fact that I'm not even talking about what's

> more or less free (in your definition). The BSD has fewer requirements,

> but it allows some users to not have the freedoms you claim to defend.

More word plays the confuse the dicussion, Eris would be proud of you.
Your point is that the BSD license is a "wrong" because it gives people

too much freedom.  You just stated this again, even more clearly than in

your earlier message.
> In my point of view, that is a social failure, which the GPL aims to end.
So, you are indeed taking the point of view that there is "good freedom"

and "bad freedom", and that coercion is needed to allow "good freedom"

to prevail.  I am glad you said so since it is totally related to what

follows.  
> > Do you seriously believe people have to be coerced into being

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> > "free"?

>

> Can you be a serious person and not divert arguments to totally unrelated

> stuff? 10x.

See above.  Rinse and repeat.
Also, it apparently didn't dawn on you that I was invoking Godwin's Law.
We agree that we disagree, please could you stop the noise?
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Sebastien