I understand that I do not get any bootable CD for

sparc...but do any of the CDs have the files on them that are needed

for an install (all of the .tgz files and the cd.iso file?)
Typically I would download all of these..burn the ISO and boot the

sparc off of the ISO and then do a local ftp install.
Thanks guys-
-JD

The upcoming 4.2 release will include an install42.iso file, which is

exactly what you want.
4.2 will be released on November 1.  The -current snapshots have this

too, but beware since -current is now ahead of what the upcoming

release will be, and that may not be what you want -- almost a
Yes, the ftp install works fine too.  Or you can entirely network boot

a machine if you setup a netboot server.

I guess what I meant to ask was that if I order the CDs (and

therefore have earlier access than waiting for FTP - which is nice!)

would all the needed files be on these (CDs) or will I still need to

use FTP for the needed install files.
If the CDs totally contain anything and everything I need directly,

then it makes sense to order them ASAP. If they dont and I need to

rely on FTP install then ordering doesnt make any sense. In that case

a donation would be more appropriate.
I'm sorry if I misunderstood the answer. I just dont want to waste

the money on CDs if I still need to grab the file(s) from FTP.
-JD

If you want to install 4.2 on a sparc, than you will have to wait for

the files to appear on the FTP-servers.
(Or try to build a 4.2-release with the source code from the CD's on a

sparc running 4.1 or -current, but that's not guaranteed to work.)
Maurice

that single word "waste" is one easy way to insult the OpenBSD Project

and community.

JD said that he'd rather make a donation than buy discs that would be

a waste of money (both for him and the OpenBSD project since those

discs aren't free to produce).
That seems like a very commendable attitude. At least, I don't find it

insulting in any way.
Sean.

Thanks Sean. That was my point. I have donated 2-3x so far in the

past and typically prefer that over buying CDs. At least 100% of my

funds go direct to Theo and/or the team vs some of the money going

towards CD production.
-JD

Okay, a little question then...
If I need/want to use some of the features in 4.2 (azalia on Macbook Pro), but

I want to convert to following the -STABLE branch as 4.2 is released, what

should I be running? Right now I am running snapshots.
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1. Once you run a -current, you cannot go backwards.  This is repeated

   over and over in the FAQ.
2. New features do not get moved into -stable.
We really don't have the resources to run multiple tracks like some

people want us to.

Hrm, I think this clarifies one thing...
I was under the impression that the current snapshots were still under the 4.2

heading, and as such, were not actually ahead of the 4.2 release. I guess I

misunderstood here. Of course, I'm well aware of the particular FAQ. :-)
The new features I am talking about are not the features after stable, but the

feature list that is currently listed in 4.2. Those are features that I want

to use now, but I want to make sure that I can move easily to 4.2-STABLE when

it is released. Are you saying that there is no way for me to get the features

in 4.2 now without running -CURRENT, which will require me to reinstall (as

opposed to upgrade) when 4.2 is released?
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If you're running recent snapshots then you are running -CURRENT and

as Theo mentions above:
"...but beware since -current is now ahead of what the upcoming

release will be, and that may not be what you want -- almost a

thousand commits have already happened to it."
-RELEASE would have been sent to the presses awhile back and

development continues on from 4.2.  You're past that point.  The

options are to continue with -CURRENT or start fresh with -RELEASE.
Greg
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having read and understood that, you should know that for most people

-current is more than good enough to work with. I am always running

-current in my production system and do not see any major (nor minor)

problem. Well, if you want to try the veeeery lastest drivers of X

then you'll have to ask for them explicitly and do it all by yourself

(compile, CVS etc) instead of "just" downloading the kernel from a

snapshot obsd ftp server.

I know that comparisons are stupid but I am an ex linux user and I

have never seen/ had the robustness of -current in any -stable release

of the linux world...
So, if you want e.g. the newest azalia codec, don't hesitate and run

-current. It's also a nice way to support the project... this way you

help to test the driver
Cheers,
Pau

Pau,
Thanks for your note...
There's one driver that I do want from that, and that's the ATI driver for the X1600 chipsets. However, at the time, I don't really have the ability to deal with random bugs, as I'm already up to my eyeballs in other things. ;-) 
Believe it or not, I due notice some stability differences between -CURRENT and -STABLE on the whole.
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