Re: scanner??

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From: Vim Visual
Subject: scanner??
Date: Monday, September 10, 2007 - 3:08 am

Hi,

Yet almost an amateur, I have totally moved to OpenBSD, I have
preordered my CDs, I bought them in the last release, tshirt/s too and
I am a missionary of the Unique Truth and try to convert all salvages
around me to it.

Now, I am looking forward to buying a scanner. I don't want a scanner,
printer, washing machine and vacuum cleaner, I just want a scanner
that scans documents and pictures. That's it.

... and I wonder whether any of you has a recommendation for me.

Do you?

Thanks a lot,

Pau Amaro Seoane

From: Vim Visual
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Monday, September 10, 2007 - 3:10 am

I forgot to mention... ahem... I want to use it with OpenBSD, of course...

(just in case of)

Pau


From: Bob Beck
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 7:52 am

Interesting, because I'm seeking the same. Based on sane's site and
what was at the local staples, I bought a Canon Lide 25 - however the
sane support on openbsd didn't work, better yet, if I boot to windows
to see if the thing is boned or not, trying to install the windows
driver crashes (I get the demoplay.exe has crashed - do you wanna tell
microsoft?). 

	Needless to say I don't need the aggravation  - the canon is going
back to the store and based on the reccomendations here I'll look for an
epson.

	-Bob



-- 
#!/usr/bin/perl
if ((not 0 && not 1) !=  (! 0 && ! 1)) {
   print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n"; 
}

From: Vim Visual
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 8:00 am

Hi Bob,

I don't have windows, so that I need a 100% obsd compatible scanner.
Let me know about your decision, please.

Cheers,

Pau


From: Mattieu Baptiste
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 8:19 am

My Canon Lide 30 works ok if I disable uscanner(4). The Lide 25 seems
to use the same SANE driver than my scaner (plustek). Maybe disabling


-- 
Mattieu Baptiste
"/earth is 102% full ... please delete anyone you can."

From: Antti Harri
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 9:59 am

Hi all,

I got Canon Canoscan N650U flatbed scanner that needs only USB cord to 
operate. It works fine although there are
some quirks. SANE's site lists the driver as "complete",
however at least on OpenBSD it sometimes tries to access
areas beoynd its limitations. There are some smaller issues
too but I don't want to go into that.

All in all, it's OK considering I paid only ~15 EUR for it (second
hand, I don't think those have been in the stores for some time).

-- 
Antti Harri

From: Bob Beck
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 10:08 am

The real problem being that scanners, like non-postscript printers,
are immense semi-proprietary bags of ass, So like an inkjet printer,
it's probably an engine written by monkeys and gpl'ed userland driver
written from nonexistent docs or reverse engineered.  Having to get
one for my wife and kid reminds me of the aggravation I went through
with inkjet printers before simply throwing enough money at the
problem to get a printer that spoke postscript and lpr. Having to do
it again with scanners with no option to buy a decent device makes me
think fondly of the mere small amount of pain that was my vasectomy...
If I get something that works I'll let the list know. 


-- 
#!/usr/bin/perl
if ((not 0 && not 1) !=  (! 0 && ! 1)) {
   print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n"; 
}

From: Antoine Jacoutot
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 11:09 am

My Epson Perfection 1650 worked abolutely perfect under OpenBSD for 
years... and I mean perfect! Very high resolution, all my workstations 
could benefit from it across the network using saned (and that 
includes Windows)...
It's not very fast, but I don't need to scan books so...

-- 
Antoine

From: Antoine Jacoutot
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 11:10 am

This is a very current problem with SANE. Try with a Linux live CD to 
see if you get the same issues, I don't think this is OpenBSD related at 
all.

-- 
Antoine

From: Antti Harri
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 12:46 pm

Now that I tried to get it malfunction I couldn't!
Worked just fine on OpenBSD. Even the LampOff setting
worked (it didn't before)! Great :-)

PS. Using the uscanner driver. No need to hassle with
UKC with it :-)

-- 
Antti Harri

From: Pete Vickers
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 3:43 pm

Just to chime in my experiences, I have an old HP scanner/copier  
connected via a parallel cable to a HP jetdirect box.

 From my openbsd host I simply run the following to retrieve an image  
of current page on the scanner glass.

wget -S -v -t 1 -O scan.pdf "http://jetdirect:9280/scan/scan.pdf? 
scan_id=1&image_format=3&paper_size=2&image_type=1&dpi=150&gamma=1"

I regard this as the scanning equivalent of Bob's 'get a PS printer'  
to avoid the complexities of drivers...


/Pete





From: Antoine Jacoutot
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Monday, September 10, 2007 - 3:14 am

Epson are usually very well supported.
See: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl

-- 
Antoine

From: Denny White
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Monday, September 10, 2007 - 11:02 pm

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I can vouch for the Epsons. I picked up an old Epson Perfection 1200U
off eBay & it works great with both xsane & the sane front & backends
on my old PIII 800 home-built running OpenBSD 4.0, and on my Dell
Dimension 2400 running 4.1, thanks to Antoine's work on the ports.
Sorry Antoine, shameless plug for you. ;)

Denny White

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From: Vim Visual
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 12:01 am

Hi,

thanks for the answers. I am looking now for a _fast_ epson.

The purpose is to be able to scan pictures with a good resolution but,
more importantly, to scan *hundreds* of pages...

I am a bit lost in ebay, but I keep on searching. Do you have any
recommendation?

I have noticed that may of them have a note added similar to this one:

"overseas version of the GT-X750 requires DFSG non-free iscan-plugin-gt-x750"

What does it mean? Why "overseas"?? Will it work?

Pau

From: Antoine Jacoutot
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 12:53 am

Outside of the USA? I don't know really...
You should really ask on the SANE lists for a fast scanner that would work
out-of-the box (i.e. without blobs or anything).

Cheers.

-- 
Antoine

From: Douglas A. Tutty
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 5:42 am

What about a nice digital camera setup with tripod, indirect lighting,
and copy-plate.  The copy-plate is a little box with foam in the bottom
and a glass top that presses the origional flat; usefull for curled
origionals, useless for books :).

Cameras, of course, take the image very quickly and a high MP camera
should give the resolution you need.

Doug.

From: Aaron Poffenberger
Subject: Re: scanner??
Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:33 pm

Hi Vim,
I know you're not looking for a washing machine and vacuum cleaner, but 
perhaps you should look at the Brother and HP MFC models.  The HP 7650 
has an auto-document feeder (ADF) which was a must have for me.  Because 
of the ADF it can scan both sides with the built in duplexer.  (It can 
also print duplex.)

The nice part about the scanner is it can be configured (via web 
interface) to scan to an SMB file share.  I'm running Samba on OpenBSD 
4.1 and have it scan straight to the share and then pick-up my scans 
from the folder.  The only trouble I've had is occasionally the scanner 
will complain about not being able to find the share.  It will usually 
find it once I push "OK" and restart the scan.

I haven't tried SANE with it nor have I tried printing from OpenBSD.  We 
print typically from OS X.  However, HP have been really working with 
the community to release all the code necessary to print with CUPS (and 
perhaps with lpn).  It should just work(tm).

I used to have a Brother 38xx that could scan straight to a card.  That 
was my solution back then.

Good luck finding what you want.

--Aaron

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