On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 05:56:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:

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> On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 11:29:11PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

> > > > Yes. The *rights you received* are the central point of the question.

> > > > Which did the user receive? The BSD granted ones? Or the GPLv2 granted ones?

>

> Both!

That's not what the copyright notice of the files

        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_base.c

        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_base.h

        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_reg.h
said. It said it was licensed under the BSD ters. *Alternatively* on the GNU GPLv2.
Its "alternatively" not "at the same time"
> > > You received the full rights granted by copyright law as a recipient,

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> > > PLUS the ones granted by the entire document.  But, you did not receive the

> > > right to modify the author's license document.

> >                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> > Which is one of two, at the mutually exclusive choice of the user. In the case

> > of the three files I see nothing bad done.

> >

> > > > If some software is dual licensed, you have two sets of rights you can choose.

> > > > It's not both at the same time. The text is even explicit: "alternatively"

>

> That is not true at all.  You have to adhere to ALL licenses.  This is

> not even remotely a slippery slope.  You are making shit up to match

> your argument.

It is true in this files, and that's what I'm talking about.

        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_base.c

        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_base.h

        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_reg.h
Please stop rudely calling me a liar, ok?

You have neither the right nor truth on your side to do that.
> blah blah blah.  You have to adhere to both licenses.  Alternatively

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> means nothing in this sentence.

Yes, I suppose "ignorance is power" too...
> > Section 6 is pretty clear, to me...

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> >

> > Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program),

> > the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor to

> > copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms and

> >                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> > conditions. You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients'

>

> Exactly; you need to adhere to all licenses.  What part isn't clear?

That's section 6 of the GPL. These terms are the terms of the GPL if you chose

the GPL.
> Your agreement is not relevant.  The law is.
Sure, take them to court, it's your money. However I suggest english 101 first.
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