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From: Karel Kulhavy <clock@...>
To: Umnada Tyrolla <tyrolla@...>
Cc: OpenBSD <misc@...>
Subject: Re: GPL is free for forcing people to free code when they publish, not free as in free to do what you want, which is actually what free as in BSD, and real freedom ends at the tip of my nose
Date: Friday, July 20, 2007 - 3:59 am

On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 08:25:43AM -0400, Umnada Tyrolla wrote:


Because preaching takes much less energy than sitting for long hours at a

computer and figuring out why a piece of code is refusing to work.


I myself coded some GPL software and released it, the biggest one is 25% of the

Links browser which is included in the OpenBSD packages. It's not clear to me

what's better, GPL or BSD. I don't care. Personally I always choose GPL for

software projects and GFDL for hardware projects. 


Due to law, hardware is de facto always released under a BSD style licence.  I

didn't have any problem with the fact that my hardware is under BSD. Neither

had I problem with my software being released under GPL.


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