dreamwvr wrote:

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> Just my 2 cents. Personally there is nothing wrong with making money.

> What I find sad is when that becomes the only way to enter the fray.

> For example the CISSP certification cost quite a bit and is used as

> a secret handshake by quite a few corps. It is the tip of the iceberg

> and is geared to those with lots of money to throw around. This means

> from observation that some are denied entry just because they do not have

> the dough to SHELL out. Hey it is an excellent baseline but certainly

> not the holy grail many tout it to be. By the way anyone willing to

> verify I have been involved in security for the past num++ years so I

> can get my CISSP certification. :-)

I can tell you that I used to higher many people in my previous life and

now time to time with two of my business and I can honestly say that

every time someone comes to me with flashing all the various credential,

specially all the various MCSE one. I really get a big trip out of

candidate that send you CV with signature with credential at the bottom

of the emails longer then their CV itself.
Time have show my over and over that candidate that need to justify what

they know by papers are not the one that get the job done when you are

in crisis and as such, that become my quick filter before the interview

as to who not to invite.
Not to bust your bubble, but really, that's what I do and I never

regretted it yet once! The best candidate are always the one that can

explain it without fuss, show you by example and just get it done

without the needs to put themselves on a pedestal!
I can also tell you that as of now, for many years, not once yet did I

had to provide support to a MSCE guys that wasn't wrong in his setup. I

love getting these emails with, you have a network problem, of setup

wrong here, or what ever and they signed their emails with more

crediential then the 8 1/2 by 11 sheet of paers can hold.
Best,
Daniel