On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 02:28:30AM +0200, Rico Secada wrote:

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> On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:28:08 +0200

> Marc Balmer  wrote:

>

> > * Rico Secada wrote:

> >

> > > What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org?

> >

> > It is as useless as MSCE and all the other vendor certificates.  I would

> > even go so far to claim it's a lot worse than a Microsoft or Cisco

> > certificate.

> >

> > This is not backed by any industry, it just reflects what some people in

> > the BSD community think would be needed to do a day job.

>

> My point exactly.

>

> Darren Spruell wrote: "Then take a look at the names affiliated with the

> organization, and the people that are putting effort into furthering a

> BSD certification track and the reasons why. Many of the names you should

> recognize as contributors in our community."

>

> Contributors in our community yes, but this doesn't mean that a BSD

> certification is worth the money they charge.

>

> What it serves in my opinion, especially if the industri was backing it,

> is a way to keep very skillful people from getting a job! Not the opposite.

>

> A lot of people can't afford some 10 different certificates just to prove

> something which a certificate in reality doesn't prove anyway.

>

> > bsdcertification.org is there to boost the ego of it's members only.

> > There is no real value in it.

>

> Perhaps I am mistaken about the "them making money part", but I agree

> with this. No value!

Just my 2 cents. Personally there is nothing wrong with making money.

What I find sad is when that becomes the only way to enter the fray.

For example the CISSP certification cost quite a bit and is used as

a secret handshake by quite a few corps. It is the tip of the iceberg

and is geared to those with lots of money to throw around. This means

from observation that some are denied entry just because they do not have

the dough to SHELL out. Hey it is an excellent baseline but certainly

not the holy grail many tout it to be. By the way anyone willing to

verify I have been involved in security for the past num++ years so I

can get my CISSP certification. :-)