Re: OpenBSD on ThinkPad

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To: <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 11:24 am

Hi there,

I want to buy a new laptop and want to run OpenBSD on it. So I think
my best choice is to buy a laptop without Intel wifi chipset and
-with- Intel Graphics Media Accelerator. (GMA is supported well
according to the FSF.) But the number of laptops with this
combination is very limited! What are your experience or tips on
buying a (new*) ThinkPad for OpenBSD.

*I'm thinking of a R60 or T60. I have no interest in widescreen.

Pieter Verberne

To: <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 9:25 pm

I bought a T60 recently -

o wpi(4) is not detected - fatal firmware error. From the manpage -
"fatal firmware error. For some reason, the firmware crashed. The
driver will reset the hardware. This should not happen."

o APM is not detected

I am not sure whether other bits like Infrared, bluetooth would work
smoothly as well.

I sent the dmesg so hopefully everything will work by the time 4.2 comes out.

At the time however, I installed Fedora Core 7 which detects
everything just fine (or with small tweaks here and there)

To: <misc@...>
Date: Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 10:36 am

Hi,

I have Thinkpad T60 and I'm currently running Linux on it. I'm planning
to switch to OpenBSD but I have a small question about the video playback.
The laptop has ATI Mobility X1400 Radeon graphics card. As far as I know
the open source 'radeon' driver doesn't support that one so I'm forced
to use the 'vesa' driver.
I know I can get the correct resolution using it but what about video
playback. Will I be able to get good playback using the vesa driver?
Also, can I get tv-out using it?
I'd hate to install OpenBSD just to notice it won't work.

-Zmyrgel-

To: Timo Myyrä <zmyrgel@...>, OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 - 1:23 pm

Hi,

If X works ok, then mplayer will be able to scale the video (using
either the xv or sdl video output plugin). Press 'f' during video
playback.

vlc can probably do it too, but I dont use it, so i cant say.

--
Best Regards

Edd

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http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett

To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 - 8:51 pm

The sdl flavor of mplayer works great on my ThinkPad T60 (with Intel GMA
950 graphics chipset), but vlc doesn't work for me. In particular, vlc
garbles all the audio.

To: Timo Myyrä <zmyrgel@...>
Cc: <misc@...>
Date: Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 2:03 pm

I currently have a Thinkpad T60. I use OpenBSD with it, and it has the exact
same graphics card, the ATI Mobility Radeon X1400. However, I have
widescreen, and I was unable to use my laptop's native resolution of
1680x1050, and the stretched alternatives was, to me, largely unusable, or
at least hard on the eyes. The stretched console font was fine, but X11, to
me, wasn't. I haven't tried tv-out, just posting my own experiences. Note
that Xenocara may have fixed this situation. I did indeed attempt to use
915resolution, and I was unable to pull 1680x1050 widescreen out of it.

To: <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 3:03 pm

I purchased a T60 (model 1953) with exactly that configuration a few
months ago. It works great with OpenBSD. As you mentioned, it has an XGA
display (no wide-screen) and Intel GMA 950 graphics chipset.

I initially made the mistake of getting the "ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wi-Fi
wireless LAN Mini-PCIe" wireless card, but that Atheros-based card is not
currently supported by OpenBSD because it uses the AR5424 chipset. So I
had to replace it with an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG card--which is what I
should have gotten in the first place.

So, I think you are making EXACTLY the correct decisions. The model you
are describing is the perfect OpenBSD laptop, and it's currently available
brand new on the Lenovo website.

To: <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 3:33 pm

Oh, and if you're thinking of buying a carrying case for your new ThinkPad
T60, don't get the Lenovo messenger bag

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/catalog.workflow:item.deta...

The strap is connected to the bag with cheap plastic clips that look like
they might easily snap if, say, you were running to catch the bus with the
bag around your shoulder.

Also, the flap just barely covers the interior compartment, which has no
zipper or other secondary protection from the elements. So, if the bag
were overstuffed and you were in a windy rain or dust storm, then the
contents might get damaged.

To: Matthew Szudzik <mszudzik@...>
Cc: <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 4:19 pm

If tpb and tphdisk functionality is a requirement for you, then you may
consider getting an older thinkpad T40 or X40 for $500. ACPI development has
made strides since I bought my X60 in November 2006, but tpb still only
works with a non-SMP kernel and I've been unable to get tphdisk to work at
all. A word of caution though, as my problem may exist between the chair and
the keyboard.

To: OpenBSD <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 9:01 pm

Yeah, I love my used T40. When this one breaks I may get the same
exact model.

Greg
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http://ticketmastersucks.org/tracker.html

Dethink to survive - Mclusky

To: <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 1:55 pm

Pieter, I'm pretty sure this has been discussed previously (and
recently) on this list. You might search the archives:

http://openbsd.org/mail.html#Archives

-Todd

To: <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 1:29 pm

works for me.

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