On 6/10/07, Adam  wrote:

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> That's just as stupid as requiring people have a cert.  Lots of people have

> certs because so many places toss your resume if you don't have "MCSE" or

> "CCNA" listed on it.  Just because they have a cert doesn't mean they don't

> know what they're doing.

alot of anti-cert sentiment. borderline misinformation in

some cases. I've interviewed folks with and without certs.

I don't know why some people insist on arguing

that "book != cover"[1] with regard to certs. silly.
here's a couple points for consideration:
1) not all certs are created equal. ccie != mcse
2) many organizations hold cisco and MS partnerships

and will often choose a unix admin with a mcp and ccna

over one who doesn't so they can keep partnership

status or increase it -- all other factors being equal.
3) a few certs do carry salary floors with them.

the ccie being one and maybe the gse another.[2]
4) Most top firms that most of us would enjoy being

employed by almost always care less about certification,

as talent and skill means everything.
5) some argue that certification is a better-than-nothing

form of peer-reviewal of ones skills.
[1] book=person and their skills, cover=resume

[2] this assumes 5ish+ years of good real world experience