On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:03:40PM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote:
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> I did read the papers. There is a difference between the file
> system being screwed and data lost. Softupdates hopefully stops
> the files system from being in a bad state, but it is amazing
> how much user data can be lost on a power failure while using
> softupdates.

you can loose much more data w/o softdeps _and_ get your
filesystem horribly broken.
cu

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-misc@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-misc@openbsd.org] On Behalf
> Of mickey
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:49 AM
> To: Peter Fraser
> Cc: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: Softupdates question
> 
> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:45:15AM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote:
> > I had always assumed the use of softupdates was safe as long
> > as you could have reasonable assurances that the machine would
> > not be shutdown without warning. (i.e. no loss of power or reset
> > being hit).
> >
> > So if you had a UPS, good hardware, and no vandals it's good to use.
> 
> actually if you bother to read the papers
> whole idea behind softdeps is to ensure better recoverability
> from crashes/power/etc.
> cu
> --
>     paranoic mickey       (my employers have changed but, the name has
> remained)
> 

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    paranoic mickey       (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)