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To: Tobias Weisserth <tobias.weisserth@...>
Cc: OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Monday, April 9, 2007 - 2:43 pm

Tobias Weisserth wrote:



It's not a matter of perspective - forced freedom is not freedom.




To ignore the possibility that it was an honest mistake is part of the
problem.  I won't claim to know what Marcus Glocker was thinking, but
it seems quite plausible that he had every intention of removing the
infringing code prior to making the bcw(4) work public, but in the
excitement of some initial positive results, he simply forgot.  Either
way, he admitted that a mistake had been made.
The reason (as I see it - again, I won't speak for anyone else) that
the OpenBSD community came down so hard on the bcm43xx dev is due to
the way he pursued the issue.  There was absolutely no good reason to
initially address the issue on a public mailing list and CC'd to a
bunch of other people.  If the initial mail had been sent privately to
Marcus, then he could/would have removed the infringing code (or
perhaps the entire driver temporarily).  He could have then issued a
public statement on *why* he did it (which would have satisfied the
need to have it out in public that some of the code wasn't actually
BSD licensed).  Had it happened that way, everybody wins, and we
don't have all of this fuss over it.

RW
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bcw(4) is gone, Diana Eichert, (Thu Apr 5, 2:55 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, frantisek holop, (Tue Apr 10, 6:19 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Reyk Floeter, (Tue Apr 10, 6:31 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Doug Brewer, (Tue Apr 10, 7:33 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Reyk Floeter, (Tue Apr 10, 5:11 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Marc Balmer, (Thu Apr 5, 3:29 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, , (Fri Apr 6, 10:13 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Siegbert Marschall, (Fri Apr 6, 8:50 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Darrin Chandler, (Thu Apr 5, 3:24 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Diana Eichert, (Thu Apr 5, 3:16 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Bret Lambert, (Thu Apr 5, 3:36 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Steven Harms, (Thu Apr 5, 4:03 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Daniel Ouellet, (Thu Apr 5, 5:25 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, , (Fri Apr 6, 10:22 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Shawn K. Quinn, (Mon Apr 9, 12:46 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Greg Thomas, (Mon Apr 9, 1:39 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Artur Grabowski, (Mon Apr 9, 11:03 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Jeroen Massar, (Mon Apr 9, 1:29 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Wed Apr 11, 6:59 am)
Re: GPL is free for forcing people to free code when they pu..., Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, (Wed Apr 11, 11:07 am)
Re: GPL is [blah blah blah ...], Matthew R. Dempsky, (Wed Apr 11, 12:05 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Shawn K. Quinn, (Mon Apr 9, 2:32 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Tobias Weisserth, (Mon Apr 9, 2:21 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Artur Grabowski, (Mon Apr 9, 11:00 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Adam, (Mon Apr 9, 2:49 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Tobias Weisserth, (Mon Apr 9, 8:07 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Marco Peereboom, (Mon Apr 9, 9:20 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Massimo Lusetti, (Wed Apr 11, 10:25 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Timo Schoeler, (Wed Apr 11, 12:47 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Marc Balmer, (Wed Apr 11, 2:08 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Timo Schoeler, (Wed Apr 11, 2:20 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Mike Erdely, (Wed Apr 11, 2:50 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Open Phugu, (Thu Apr 12, 1:10 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, RedShift, (Tue Apr 10, 2:49 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Artur Grabowski, (Tue Apr 10, 4:41 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Leonardo Rodrigues, (Tue Apr 10, 3:53 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Douglas Allan Tutty, (Mon Apr 9, 11:21 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Tobias Weisserth, (Mon Apr 9, 9:26 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Lars Hansson, (Mon Apr 9, 11:53 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Adam, (Mon Apr 9, 11:15 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Timo Schoeler, (Tue Apr 10, 2:27 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Darren Spruell, (Mon Apr 9, 10:12 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Marco Peereboom, (Mon Apr 9, 9:46 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Greg Thomas, (Mon Apr 9, 10:16 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Jason Dixon, (Mon Apr 9, 10:34 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Shawn K. Quinn, (Wed Apr 11, 7:02 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Todd Alan Smith, (Wed Apr 11, 8:10 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Greg Thomas, (Mon Apr 9, 10:56 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Robby Workman, (Mon Apr 9, 2:43 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Tobias Weisserth, (Mon Apr 9, 7:48 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Marco Peereboom, (Mon Apr 9, 8:56 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Weldon Goree, (Fri Apr 6, 11:18 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Matthias Kilian, (Thu Apr 5, 6:55 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Woodchuck, (Thu Apr 5, 6:25 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Andrés Delfino, (Thu Apr 5, 6:13 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Rogier Krieger, (Thu Apr 5, 7:21 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Andrés Delfino, (Thu Apr 5, 7:26 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Damien Miller, (Fri Apr 6, 5:56 am)
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Re: bcw(4) is gone, Floor Terra, (Fri Apr 6, 8:39 am)
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Re: bcw(4) is gone, Daniel Ouellet, (Thu Apr 5, 6:45 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Andrés Delfino, (Thu Apr 5, 6:51 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Dries Schellekens, (Thu Apr 5, 7:23 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Floor Terra, (Thu Apr 5, 7:15 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Henning Brauer, (Fri Apr 6, 9:38 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Weldon Goree, (Fri Apr 6, 3:06 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Marco Peereboom, (Fri Apr 6, 10:46 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Douglas Allan Tutty, (Fri Apr 6, 12:15 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Dan Farrell, (Fri Apr 6, 1:03 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, bofh, (Fri Apr 6, 10:58 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Dan Farrell, (Fri Apr 6, 12:16 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Steven Harms, (Thu Apr 5, 7:08 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Andrés Delfino, (Thu Apr 5, 7:14 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Steven Harms, (Thu Apr 5, 9:24 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, darren kirby, (Fri Apr 6, 2:27 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Lars Hansson, (Mon Apr 9, 11:23 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Jacob Yocom-Piatt, (Fri Apr 6, 12:17 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone , Marcus Watts, (Fri Apr 6, 11:50 am)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Darren Spruell, (Fri Apr 6, 4:42 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Jack J. Woehr, (Fri Apr 6, 4:57 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Gordon Willem Klok, (Fri Apr 6, 3:12 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone , Marcus Watts, (Fri Apr 6, 3:49 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Matthew R. Dempsky, (Fri Apr 6, 2:20 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, bofh, (Fri Apr 6, 1:30 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone , Marcus Watts, (Fri Apr 6, 2:26 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Stefan Sperling, (Fri Apr 6, 2:23 pm)
Re: bcw(4) is gone, Jon Simola, (Fri Apr 6, 7:55 pm)
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