Marco Peereboom wrote:

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> I have to reply to this horse shit.

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:-)
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>> Regarding freedom: Take the Linksys routing devices. They ship with

>> GPL software. Taking what you said as an example, it would be OK if

>> Linksys made proprietary changes to the free software and deliver a

>> closed software on the device. If for example the proprietary changes

>> make the free software work on the device in the first place, the

>> software is in effect not free anymore, as the free version of the

>> software is useless in effect. If there is no other option than to

>> buy these Linksys devices or similar devices in the future and the

>> originally free software cannot be used on any other device anymore,

>> then the propriety changes to a free software has made this software

>> unfree for users. What's the freedom of BSD software worth when it

>> can't be used in its free form anymore? That can't happen with GPL'ed

>> software.

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> You are talking without saying anything.  What is your fucking point?

> 

Have you actually read that piece of text??
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>> There are many cases where a GPL license is the only sensible choice

>> in my opinion. Of course, I don't reject the BSD license either. It

>> all depends on what you want to bring about and secure. There is no

>> one-and-only-free license.

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> The only good use so for of the GPL is java.  Sun gets to pretend to put

> "free" code out there and it is completely protected by the GPL.  It will

> never take any patches from the community; it simply wants to retain

> full control.  The joke is on GPL since it protects the companies it

> "hates".  One has got to love unforeseen consequences.

Have you tried submitting patches to them? You are just being prejudist.

Please don't say things you "think", say things that are proven fact.
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Glenn