Re: No Blob without Puffy

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From: SW
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 6:31 pm

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Dixon [mailto:jason@dixongroup.net] 
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:53 AM
To: info@praxis123.de
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: No Blob without Puffy


On Mar 18, 2007, at 7:06 PM, SW wrote:

<snip a formerly private email thread>

I read your entire thread, and find it appalling that not only will  
you take someone's private email and broadcast it, but that it  
incriminates you on all counts.  You admit that FreeBSD continues to  
ship BLOBs, but you wish to keep them on your campaign against  
BLOBs.  Don't you see the hypocrisy in this action?

--
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net


1. We have nothing to hide. Theo wrote he would post the mails
in public, I told him to do so. There's nothing private in those
mails. Everybody has a right to know what was going on, read every
bit.

2. I asked Theo if OpenBSD has objections to this campaign. Theo
wrote that only BSDs with no Blobs should be on the poster. That's
OpenBSD policy. FreeBSD and NetBSD have a different policy. Theo 
wanted OpenBSD removed from that poster, we did it. Theo claimed
that Stop Blob! is OpenBSD "intellectual property" so we changed
it to "No Blob!". If OpenBSD wants to improve the "Stop Blob!" campaign
please stop complaining and contribute. I wish OpenBSD the very best
and hope they will be able to succeed in any way. 

3. FreeBSD has Blobs, there's no need for admitting, read the FreeBSD
cvs, this is not a secret.

4. You think the only way to fight Blobs is totally abandon them. All the
other BSDs have a different opinion. Because we have a different opinion
how too achieve something (we all want free documentation) doesn't mean
we like Blobs, NDAs or something. Yes, I am a FreeBSD-guy to the bone and I
don't like Blobs nor that I am using them. And I will not do any sort
of armchair quarterbacking. I will fight and tell the public what's 
going on and why I don't like it.

5. OpenBSD thinks there should be no possibility whatsoever to use Blobs.
FreeBSD thinks it's up to the user to decide what's best for him. And
maybe that will include competition between Open Source BSD-licensed
drivers and Blobs. You can use Nvidia graphics drivers in FreeBSD and
you can use xorg. You can use NVE or NFE soon. That's freedom of choice,
Free as in FreeBSD (and NetBSD and DragonFly BSD etc.). 

6. Go on with your fight for free documentation but please stop fighting
all other BSDs. It will lead to absolutely no good. 

All the best for OpenBSD,

Daniel
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Re: No Blob without Puffy, SW, (Sun Mar 18, 4:06 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Jason Dixon, (Sun Mar 18, 5:52 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Luke Bakken, (Sun Mar 18, 5:53 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Craig Brozefsky, (Sun Mar 18, 6:20 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, SW, (Sun Mar 18, 6:31 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Rafael Almeida, (Sun Mar 18, 6:41 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Jason Dixon, (Sun Mar 18, 7:19 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Daniel Ouellet, (Sun Mar 18, 7:54 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Adam, (Sun Mar 18, 7:56 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Damien Miller, (Sun Mar 18, 8:27 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Jason LaRiviere, (Sun Mar 18, 8:30 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Rafael Almeida, (Sun Mar 18, 8:31 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Artur Grabowski, (Mon Mar 19, 2:00 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Henning Brauer, (Mon Mar 19, 3:35 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Timo Schoeler, (Mon Mar 19, 4:15 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Jacob Yocom-Piatt, (Mon Mar 19, 4:56 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Karel Kulhavy, (Mon Mar 19, 7:04 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Karel Kulhavy, (Mon Mar 19, 7:27 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Nick !, (Mon Mar 19, 8:46 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Marco Peereboom, (Mon Mar 19, 8:48 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Chris Black, (Mon Mar 19, 8:54 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Dan Farrell, (Mon Mar 19, 8:59 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Artur Grabowski, (Mon Mar 19, 9:05 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Timo Schoeler, (Mon Mar 19, 9:17 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Ted Unangst, (Mon Mar 19, 10:31 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Dave Anderson, (Mon Mar 19, 11:49 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Lars D. Noodén, (Mon Mar 19, 11:59 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Dan Farrell, (Mon Mar 19, 1:55 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, RW, (Mon Mar 19, 3:00 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, chefren, (Mon Mar 19, 4:33 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Tony Abernethy, (Mon Mar 19, 6:52 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Daniel Ouellet, (Mon Mar 19, 9:43 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Dan Farrell, (Tue Mar 20, 7:03 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Nick !, (Tue Mar 20, 7:29 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Daniel Ouellet, (Tue Mar 20, 12:31 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Karel Kulhavy, (Sun Mar 25, 11:47 am)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Karel Kulhavy, (Sun Mar 25, 12:00 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Karel Kulhavy, (Sun Mar 25, 12:06 pm)
Re: No Blob without Puffy, Nick !, (Sun Mar 25, 5:09 pm)