On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:49:52AM -0500, Travers Buda wrote:
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> * tony sarendal <dualcyclone@gmail.com> [2007-03-16 06:03:49]:
> 
> > http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
> > ---
> > *security-announce* Security announcements. This low volume list receives
> > OpenBSD security advisories and pointers to security patches as they become
> > available.---Martin and Karl have valid points in their initial emails.
> > 
> > /Tony S
> > 
> 
> It's important to put yourself in Theo et al.'s shoes.  Here's a
> group of people who write code for free, and then give it away for
> free.  There's no serious cash inflow to enable them to do everything

How do you know it's not serious? Does Theo publish the amounts anywhere?

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> they want.  The code can be used by anybody for whatever purpose,
> like: making money!  And does that money ever find it's way back
> to OpenBSD?  I'm talking about big corporations here.  OpenSSH is
> in _everything_.  It's only natural that OpenBSD should feel a sense
> of ingratitude...  because there is ingratitude.  To add insult to
> injury, people ask for more than what is freely offered.  Example:
> this thread.
> 
> If you want to see X feature, hire one of the developers.
> If you want to keep getting releases, pay Theo's hydroponics..  err

That's a valid point if Theo took a joint, the negative emotions from
his reactions might disapper. Holds not only for Theo.

I am having a feeling that Theo is like a panhandler that plays a good music in
a subway and when you throw him 1$ and notice his fly is down. He snaps and
starts yelling at you that you should pay at least 10$ because his music is
really good (which it actually is) and that his zipper is down because he's
overworked.  Instead of putting his zipper up.

Jeez, Theo is a world OS programmer, I am sure his OS design skills are
unequalled by most others, judging by the quality of the result. Why should he
degrade himself into a role of a hysteric panhandler?

I would suggest to implement some strategy to increase the cash flow. If it
doesn't help, then going into the strict mode. Develop something, collect the
donations and release only after you get covered. I think people will quickly
get used to the fact that it's easier to pay a laughably small donation and
then get a quality intellectual property into your ownership than pay a
ridiculously high rent to a proprietary company and get a dubious quality
product for it.

CL<
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> electric bill.  etc etc
> 
> -- 
> Travers Buda