Re: Code signing in OpenBSD

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Date: Thursday, December 6, 2007 - 12:03 pm

>> > Come on... twice a year and get the benefit of not being excluded from

You make it sound like OpenBSD is a vendor that is actively marketing to these
companies and that cannot make a sale because it is not meeting a specific set
of criteria in your requirements docs.

Tell you what. I am sure there are a number of individuals on the list who
own or work at companies that would be more than happy to provide your
employer with a custom-built set of installation binaries and packages, signed
for your digital pleasure. I expect bi-annual costs, including overhead like
lawyers, errors and omissions insurance, etc, to run mid-5-figures per
release. Minimum 5 release contract. Expect much re-writing of contract
clauses. If there is indeed that much value derived in your organization from
the use of OpenBSD, then this will be a paltry sum to pay.

I am fairly confident that Oracle and Sun and SAP likely aren't PKI'ing their
updates from their websites. Oh wait. Are those excluded from the company
policy because you have a contract in place?

I went through a similar policy a few years ago while doing Sarbanes-Oxley
consulting. The lawyers and auditors were screaming for validation of free
software, like Perl. After many months of having tantrums, they, along with
management, finally realized that going down this path would be tantamount to
try to chip away all the morter keeping a brick building together. The
effects on the integrity of the structure (corporate, in this case) would be
too great to keep pursuing this line of thought. That policy was abandoned
because it was costing more to implement than the perceived risks they
believed they could mitigate. (i.e. - they had to think in practical terms)

Shortly afterward, I went back to steel-toed-boots engineering, where risks
models really matter because you're trying to ensure that people don't get
killed, that the environment doesn't get polluted, that you don't destroy
assets and that you don't impact production. Digital signatures are pretty
irrelevant when you need to be concerned about an explosion that could
potentially wipe out a few hundred million in infrastructure in the space of a
few city blocks. Or when an H2S leak can kill you and your crew in the matter
of a few breaths.

If it's that important, shut up and hack. Or otherwise just shut up.

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