I run KDE on a thinkpad-t43 (-current), and don't have this problem.

--
Regards,
Bill Karh

boot -c to go in UKC or config -ef /bsd and use 'disable apm'
to get acpi to attach. Maybe it will help.

--
Pierre Riteau

Hi,

I see... this happens when an item has both input and output
levels that can be adjusted.

Could you try this diff please? It should give you something
more like:

outputs.line=124,124
inputs.line=85,85

Thanks!

Index: azalia.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/azalia.c,v
retrieving revision 1.45
diff -u -p -r1.45 azalia.c
--- azalia.c 25 Nov 2007 18:13:40 -0000 1.45
+++ azalia.c 13 Dec 2007 18:37:58 -0000
@@ -16...

Richard's words are the essence of the Free Software Foundation and
the GNU General Public License: people _must_ use free software,
people _can_ decide whether to use free software or not, but people
_must not_ be free to exercise that desire.

That is not what I said. See several other postings of mine today for
a statement of my views.

// Check whether this is good shit
if (allows(project, free_software) && ! allows(project, non_free_software))
add_to_list(...

Then there's the practical side to consider. Most computer users simply
do not care about freedom. They only want their stuff to work. Even
among the local Linux crowd in my town, if I bring up an issue of
freedom I get a frigid response, or even outright anger. Mostly they
want a blanket blessing for using Free Software (even when it's not),
and they want to stick it to Microsoft. And... they don't want to think,
or evaluate, and make a tough choice.

So, in that sense GNU, the FSF, and your pers...

Please see

http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/faq2.html

And

ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/

What's that, there?

Emacs *binaries* for *Windows*

Supplied right by Richard's http and ftp mirrors.

Richard, I may be unfriendly, but you are a lying hypocritical
asshole.

Not to mention:

http://directory.fsf.org/project/reactOS/ - "ReactOS is a project to
create a free operating system that is compatible with Windows NT so
users can have access to a free operating system but still run their
favorite Windows PC programs and drivers."

http://directory.fsf.org/project/Windows32API/ - "It is a set of
header files and import libraries that can be used by GNU tools for
compiling and linking programs to be run under operating systems
supporting the Win32 Applicati...

I believe Richard might have been misinformed about ports, while you...
... should know better.

It's the difference between helping people run more Free Software vs
spreading proprietary software.

Talking about "lies", or "hypocrisy" is nothing more than petty insulting.

Rui

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Today is Boomtime, the 55th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3173
+ No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown
+ Whatever you do will be insignificant,
| but it is very imp...

IMHO, is it not relevant the quality (as in: completeness,
friendliness, or the like) of the port. I *do* find important the
quality of compilation and run.

Hi all,

I'm trying to install httpd-2.2.6 on my openbsd 3.9 from source. I get the
following error when I run make

Making all in support
make[1]: Entering directory `/export/home/mbaki/httpd-2.2.6/support'
make[2]: Entering directory `/export/home/mbaki/httpd-2.2.6/support'
/usr/local/apr/build-1/libtool --silent --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -pthread
-o htpasswd htpasswd.lo -lm
/export/home/mbaki/httpd-2.2.6/srclib/pcre/libpcre.la
/usr/local/apr/lib/libaprutil-1.la -lexpat -liconv
/usr/loc...

You are missing expat (or the linker can't find it). pkg_add it. But,
you might want to take this opportunity to upgrade and install apache2
from ports.

--
Kyle George

OK I see something that I do not like at all.

Rob,
You are running OpenBSD 4.2 current! Do you understand that is
developmental version of OpenBSD and is not really supposed to be
stable.Unless you need to run current to build new ports or packages or
you are kernel developer I would strongly recommend that you go back to
release or if you want to build the system from the source that you go
back to 4.2 stable.

Is the port tree for current or for stable? Even if you were careful to
grab the cur...

As I recall from the FAQ and installation manual, an overall
philosphy for OpenBSD is that the package system is the
recommended. Users are encouraged to install from binary
packages. And regular users should follow the stable
branch.

Does this still apply. It seems not from this thread, so
in what way should a regular user now follow the stable branch?

And yes, it should be in the FAQ.

--

/ Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB

Hello,

three weeks I set up a Subversion/Apache2 on my private
OpenBSD 4.2 to be publicly available. It was not migrated
from an earlier system. Doing this I hade cause to restart
Apache 1.3 and Apache 2.2 repeatedly until my access control
worked correctly. This disclosed a shortcoming in Apache 1.3,
which I verified anew some five minutes ago.

The standard procedure I use is

# apachectl2 configtest
# apacheclt2 restart

which works perfectly for Apache 2.2, but the counterpart

# apache...

Alexander Hall wrote:

it is (and has been for quite some time)...
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#httpdchroot

Nick.

What is wrong with reading the FAQ?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#httpdchroot

--
Antoine

Hi,

mixerctl output has some duplicate entries (duplicated names, but
different values), which leaves me confused. Here is the output:

[amar@zimbu ~ $] mixerctl
outputs.dac.source=hdaudio
outputs.line.source=dac2
outputs.line.mute=off

outputs.line=124,124
outputs.line=85,85

outputs.line.dir=output
outputs.line.boost=off
outputs.line.eapd=off
outputs.headphones.sour=dac2
outputs.headphones.mute=off
outputs.headphones=124,124
outputs.headphones.boos=off
outputs.speaker.mute=off
output...

OK I see something that I do not like at all.

Rob,
You are running OpenBSD 4.2 current! Do you understand that is
developmental version of OpenBSD and is not really supposed to be
stable.Unless you need to run current to build new ports or packages or
you are kernel developer I would strongly recommend that you go back to
release or if you want to build the system from the source that you go
back to 4.2 stable.

Is the port tree for current or for stable? Even if you were careful to
grab t...

David, wonderful writeup!

there is a guy here at work, he is full of extra(sometimes called crap or standup), nobody takes him seriously. He is always talking(trying to discuss) religion/philosophy/societies/real-estate/what-not! etc... which people quietly skip. BUT once in a while, he says something which sucks otherwise sane and hardworking people into his nonsense... and then we see: trying-to-talk-sense vs nonsense. Its hilarious, and complete waste of time. We have moved him to midnight shift: to h...

When you use FreeBSD do you use KDE as well? Does it happen the same
thing under FreeBSD or only when you use KDE on the
top of OpenBSD?

Did you use pkg or ports to install KDE? What is the version of KDE,
Xorg and OpenBSD that you use.
If you use KDE in FreeBSD did you compare the files xorg.conf? What is
the version of KDE, Xorg and FreeBSD that you use?

Best,
Predrag

P. S. And yes I will also suggest that you use something much lighter. I
see no purpose in running KDE on the top of...

First of all I hope I didn't offend the port maintainer of the KDE. My
sincere apology to him. I was wrong to say above. That is a huge job and
the last thing pure guy needs is my crap.

In my experience OpenBSD is by far the cleanest and the simplest OS I
have ever used in my life. On the another hand KDE is 200m very
elaborate GUI coded for mostly with Linux in mind. I am not aware that
one can use any of KDE graphical tools to configure any of the
OpenBSD services.(I might be very...

Hello Moderator,

I would not like to publish my below (last) email to this mailing list. As i do not want to offend anyone.
That is not my intention.

thank you.
-BG

________________________________
~~Kalyan-mastu~~

----- Original Message ----
From: badeguruji <badeguruji@yahoo.com>
To: David Walker <david@inspectagadget.com.au>; misc@openbsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 9:38:07 PM
Subject: Re: Real men don't attack straw men

David, wonderful writeup!

there i...

Hi.

I looked at the http://openbsd.org/i386.html#hardware, but ofcourse it
doesn't say anything about printers :-)

Does the OpenBSD 4.2 package of ghostscript support Brother HL1430? Is
it possible to get this printer running without having to patch
ghostscript?

Best regards.

Rico.

Hello,

having spent most of the evening to understand why
my kernel build suddenly aborted compilation with
a pointer to a missing call "rt_mpath_next", I found
that the "option SMALL_KERNEL" clashes with
"pseudo-device pf 1", and that this was the sole
cause for my failure. My original reason for this
experiment was to produce a small kernel for a
router system.

Now I am curious, are there any available documentation
as to what features the compilation option SMALL_KERNEL
definitely prevent...

no. SMALL_KERNEL really is only meant for installers, not just small kernels.

like most kernel options, you shouldn't touch it unless you really
need it, and the people who really need it know who they are and don't
ask questions. :)

use GENERIC.