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To: knitti <knitti@...>
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Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 8:51 pm

knitti wrote:

No. I am saying that there is a direct relation between the socket not 
being available to reach that state and the value assigned to keep alive 
making it take more time to reach the CLOSE_WAIT state and as such 
reducing the number of sockets you can use and as a side effect of this, 
limiting the number of users httpd can handle.

As to the second part of that question, meaning "after it reach the 
CLOSE_WAIT", how long it stay in it? I think, and that's where my 
knowledge and understanding is lacking some, that it is at that point an 
OS part and as such may be able to be adjusted by some OS variable, not 
applications one at that time.

See, the difference is creation, usage and destruction of sockets are an 
application function, but all the signaling of it and handling of it is 
an OS function. At a minimum, that's how I understand it and as such 
when you reach the CLOSE_WAIT state, that's not under the application 
layer control anymore, but the OS and as such can be helped by OS changes.

I may be wrong here and if so, I would love for someone to correct that 
for me, but that's how I understand it.

The creation, usage and closing of the socket itself is application 
related, but the signaling, etc is a function of the TCP/IP stack under 
the OS control, and this 'CLOSE_WAIT' state is in the TCP/IP stack 
control and as such not an application issue, but an OS control factor 
that may be helped some and only if needed under heavy traffic as other 
wise the default as good as is.

I hope this makes it more clear, for my own understanding, or lack there 
of, of it anyway.

May be I make a foul of myself here (wouldn't be the first time and I 
only learn by extending myself out and learn from my mistakes), but that 
what I understand is, thinking about it now.

So, that's why I pointed the three parts that would/could help in this case.

Best,

Daniel
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rouge IPs / user, badeguruji, (Fri Dec 7, 1:51 pm)
Re: rouge IPs / user, Raimo Niskanen, (Mon Dec 10, 7:31 am)
Re: rouge IPs / user, Joel Wiramu Pauling, (Mon Dec 10, 8:15 am)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, Raimo Niskanen, (Tue Dec 11, 6:56 am)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, Daniel Ouellet, (Tue Dec 11, 1:15 pm)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, knitti, (Tue Dec 11, 8:43 am)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, Marti Martinez, (Tue Dec 11, 12:40 pm)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, Stuart Henderson, (Tue Dec 11, 1:47 pm)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, knitti, (Tue Dec 11, 2:13 pm)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, Daniel Ouellet, (Tue Dec 11, 3:20 pm)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, knitti, (Tue Dec 11, 7:04 pm)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, Daniel Ouellet, (Tue Dec 11, 7:44 pm)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, knitti, (Tue Dec 11, 8:34 pm)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, knitti, (Wed Dec 12, 5:11 am)
Re: : : rouge IPs / user, Raimo Niskanen, (Wed Dec 12, 11:18 am)
Re: : : rouge IPs / user, Daniel Ouellet, (Wed Dec 12, 1:53 pm)
Re: : : rouge IPs / user, knitti, (Wed Dec 12, 4:03 pm)
Re: : : rouge IPs / user, Daniel Ouellet, (Wed Dec 12, 4:19 pm)
Re: : : rouge IPs / user, knitti, (Wed Dec 12, 4:44 pm)
Re: : : rouge IPs / user, Daniel Ouellet, (Thu Dec 13, 1:30 am)
Re: : : rouge IPs / user, Daniel Ouellet, (Wed Dec 12, 5:13 pm)
Re: : : rouge IPs / user, knitti, (Wed Dec 12, 5:42 pm)
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Re: : : rouge IPs / user, Otto Moerbeek, (Wed Dec 12, 6:25 pm)
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Re: : : rouge IPs / user, Daniel Ouellet, (Thu Dec 13, 1:17 am)
Re: : rouge IPs / user, Daniel Ouellet, (Tue Dec 11, 8:51 pm)
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Re: rouge IPs / user, Dan Farrell, (Wed Dec 12, 3:55 pm)
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