Greets

OK here is the update:

Internet
     I
OpenBSD 4.2 (1) ------- wired LAN
      I
wireless card - 10.60.128.1
      I
      I
(the following is the problem box)
      I
wireless card ral0 - 10.60.128.2
      I
OpenBSD 4.2 (2)---- wired LAN em0 - 10.60.130.1
      I
wireless card ral1 - 10.60.129.1

I am pulling this info off another server/router that I have at home so 
the vr0 interface is replaced with the em0

First ifconfig -A,  netstat -rnfinet without the wired lan (em0) enabled.

*ifconfig -A*

lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 33224
    groups: lo
    inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
    inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
    inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
ral0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    lladdr 00:08:a1:ad:0a:32
    groups: wlan egress
    media: IEEE802.11 OFDM54 mode 11g (DS1 mode 11g)
    status: active
    ieee80211: nwid tri-statebroadband.com_2 chan 3 bssid 
00:08:a1:ad:0a:46 50dB 100dBm
    inet 10.60.128.2 netmask 0xffffc000 broadcast 10.60.191.255
    inet6 fe80::208:a1ff:fead:a32%ral0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
ral1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    lladdr 00:08:a1:b5:64:e2
    groups: wlan
    media: IEEE802.11 OFDM54 mode 11g hostap (autoselect mode 11g hostap)
    status: active
    ieee80211: nwid tri-statebroadband.com_2_1 chan 1 bssid 
00:08:a1:b5:64:e2 100dBm
    inet 10.60.129.1 netmask 0xffffc000 broadcast 10.60.191.255
    inet6 fe80::208:a1ff:feb5:64e2%ral1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
fxp0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    lladdr 00:e0:81:65:f2:4d
    media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
    status: no carrier
em0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    lladdr 00:e0:81:65:f2:4c
    media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex,rxpause,txpause)
    status: active
pflog0: flags=0<> mtu 33224
enc0: flags=0<> mtu 1536



*netstat -rnfinet*

Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use    Mtu  
Interface
default            10.60.128.1        UGS         3       89      -   ral0
10.60.128/18       link#1             UC          1        0      -   ral0
10.60.128.1        00:08:a1:ad:0a:46  UHLc        1        8      -   ral0
127/8              127.0.0.1          UGRS        0        0  33224   lo0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1        0  33224   lo0
224/4              127.0.0.1          URS         0        0  33224   lo0

at this time I can ping the OpenBSD (1) server fine everything works,
I now enable em0 and reboot to get the following, ( I do not have 
routed_flags="-q" enabled but I get the same results if I do have it 
enabled.

*ifconfig -A

*lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 33224
    groups: lo
    inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
    inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
    inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
ral0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    lladdr 00:08:a1:ad:0a:32
    groups: wlan egress
    media: IEEE802.11 OFDM54 mode 11g (OFDM36 mode 11g)
    status: active
    ieee80211: nwid tri-statebroadband.com_2 chan 3 bssid 
00:08:a1:ad:0a:46 50dB 100dBm
    inet 10.60.128.2 netmask 0xffffc000 broadcast 10.60.191.255
    inet6 fe80::208:a1ff:fead:a32%ral0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
ral1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    lladdr 00:08:a1:b5:64:e2
    groups: wlan
    media: IEEE802.11 OFDM54 mode 11g hostap (autoselect mode 11g hostap)
    status: active
    ieee80211: nwid tri-statebroadband.com_2_1 chan 1 bssid 
00:08:a1:b5:64:e2 100dBm
    inet 10.60.129.1 netmask 0xffffc000 broadcast 10.60.191.255
    inet6 fe80::208:a1ff:feb5:64e2%ral1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
fxp0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    lladdr 00:e0:81:65:f2:4d
    media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
    status: no carrier
em0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    lladdr 00:e0:81:65:f2:4c
    media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex,rxpause,txpause)
    status: active
    inet 10.60.130.1 netmask 0xffffc000 broadcast 10.60.191.255
    inet6 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe65:f24c%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
pflog0: flags=0<> mtu 33224
enc0: flags=0<> mtu 1536

*netstat -rnfinet

*Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use    Mtu  
Interface
default            10.60.128.1        UGS         0        0      -   ral0
10.60.128/18       link#4             UC          1        0      -   em0
10.60.128.1        link#4             UHLc        2       13      -   em0
127/8              127.0.0.1          UGRS        0        0  33224   lo0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1        0  33224   lo0
224/4              127.0.0.1          URS         0        0  33224   lo0

As you can see I now have a fubared routing table. I can no longer ping 
OpenBSD (1), I have tried to do a route flush and manual route add but 
it always comes back to this.

Bret

Stuart Henderson wrote:

quoted text
>On 2007/12/10 19:58, Bret wrote:
>  
>
>>The default route needs to be thru the wireless card and works fine untill I 
>>add an IP for the wired lan vr() or I add it to the
>>bridge: up ral0
>>          up ral1 ------ works great (and yes the up)
>>
>>but as soon as I add the vr0 the default route goes to the wired lan vr0.
>>    
>>
>
>It sounds like you're using the same subnet on two network interfaces.
>That won't work. Either use different subnets, or use trunk.
>
>If that's not what you're trying to do, post the output from
>"netstat -rnfinet" and "ifconfig -A" so we can see how things are
>configured.