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From: Jacob Meuser <jakemsr@...>

To: <misc@...>

Subject: Re: Real men don't attack straw men

Date: Monday, December 10, 2007 - 8:58 pm

On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:18:47AM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:

> One question particularly relevant for this list is why I don't

quoted text

> recommend OpenBSD. It is not about what the system allows. (Any
> general purpose system allows doing anything at all.) It is about
> what the system suggests to the user.

http://marc.info/?t=119658331900002&r=1&w=2

http://forum.skype.com/lofiversion/index.php/t96248.html

OpenBSD "suggests" non-free software?

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Re: Real men don't attack straw men, RedShift, (Tue Dec 11, 5:23 pm)

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Re: Real men don't attack straw men, Jacob Meuser, (Tue Dec 11, 7:53 pm)

Re: Real men don't attack straw men, Richard Stallman, (Thu Dec 13, 12:51 pm)

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Re: Real men don't attack straw men, Richard Stallman, (Fri Dec 14, 4:49 pm)

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