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To: Samuel Proulx <traumator@...>
Cc: OpenBSD <misc@...>
Date: Saturday, November 3, 2007 - 8:09 am

On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:17:05AM -0400, Samuel Proulx wrote:

No there isn't. That's where the kernel fails in the virtualization of
hardware.

For example if I have music playing in the background, Audacity cannot open
the soundcard for recording. Can you imagine an operating system where if
Firefox was writing a webpage to the disk, your e-mail client couldn't read
a mail folder from the disk?

But Linux suffers from the same problem. Then there are some kind of
castle in the air solutions like esd or arts. I tried that on Linux. arts
segfaults periodically, esd plays the wrong pitch. It's like if you had
a special daemon running that would virtualize the harddisk for your browser
and e-mail client - a crap solution.

The proper natural solution is to implement this in the kernel where it belongs
to according to what they told us on the lectures - I have done a master degree
in operating systems, networks and compilers. They said that the kernel should
virtualize the hardware so each app thinks it's alone on the system. 

But that involves realtime resampling, Hann windows and finite impulse response
filters and that's work.  Especially for kernel people who are familiar with
locks and scheduling, but not with fourier transform and convolution.

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OpenBSD Sound, Samuel Proulx, (Wed Oct 31, 9:17 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Karel Kulhavy, (Sat Nov 3, 8:09 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Jacob Meuser, (Sat Nov 3, 4:38 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Tomas Bodzar, (Wed Oct 31, 10:51 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile)..., (Wed Oct 31, 11:06 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Jacob Meuser, (Wed Oct 31, 5:30 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Nick Guenther, (Wed Oct 31, 11:23 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Alexandre Ratchov, (Wed Oct 31, 12:48 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Karel Kulhavy, (Sat Nov 3, 8:40 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Alexandre Ratchov, (Sat Nov 3, 12:36 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Stuart Henderson, (Sat Nov 3, 10:21 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Karel Kulhavy, (Sat Nov 3, 11:40 am)
False OpenBSD Sound, chefren, (Sat Nov 3, 6:14 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Jussi Peltola, (Sat Nov 3, 12:29 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Edd Barrett, (Sat Nov 3, 9:44 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Karel Kulhavy, (Sat Nov 3, 10:23 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound , Theo de Raadt, (Sat Nov 3, 12:03 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Steve Shockley, (Sun Nov 4, 1:55 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Ted Unangst, (Wed Oct 31, 12:40 pm)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Nick Guenther, (Wed Oct 31, 10:47 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Karel Kulhavy, (Sat Nov 3, 8:21 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Samuel Proulx, (Wed Oct 31, 11:11 am)
Re: OpenBSD Sound, Benjamin M. A'Lee, (Wed Oct 31, 10:19 am)
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