On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:05:20AM -0700, Dag Richards wrote:

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> n0g0013 wrote:

> >On 31.10-11:12, Nick Guenther wrote:

> >[ ... ]

> >>>and i would suggest that the severe and prevelant attitude toward the

> >>>possibilty of poor patches or under-educated actions is the most

> >>>significant barrier to encouraging new/young developers.

> >>Well that's the point of it; or at least, a useful side-effect.

> >>Linux can get away with sending fanboi masses at its code because it's

> >>fine with fanboi masses poking at all parts of the kernel, no matter

> >>how secure it may be. Right?

> >

> >i think we'll simply agree to disagree.  i personally find it quite

> >disheartening to hear the attitude that prevails here but that's the

> >community's decision.  it certainaly seems to refelect the attitute

> >of it's leaders (developers).

> >

>

> Consider it the voice of experience (bitter).

>

> Its easy to tell which ones are the programmers.

>

> They write code, then they submit it, it does not suck too much and they

> take the suggestions of the current project leads. Then they resubmit

> better code.

>

> The rest of us should simply buy CD's, ask and answer the occasional 

Buy CD's until you get into the situation I got into with Vim Vandeputte

- ordered a hoodie as a xmas present, he said he can ship it until xmas,

and the first reply was after xmas.
Take this, add the name calling and unfriendly atmosphere on the mailing list

and you have an explanation why the OpenBSD isn't more popular than is

- because there are factors that motivate people away from OpenBSD.
More popular OpenBSD means more people sending donations.
CL<

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> question, and other wise keep quiet.

>

> When you run a Data Centre, that has thousands of users serving tens of

> thousands of customers who need medical services on a 24 hour basis, you

> will miss the hand holding and warm friendly thoughts less; and

> appreciate the complete documentation and conformity to that

> documentation way way WAY more.

>

> BTW I was a Linux user from kernel .92 ( that is some time in 1994 )

> through 2.6.  Trying to run that professionally was always fun and

> exciting. Man I don't miss that.