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Re: OpenBSD in the webcomic XKCD

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To: misc >> OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 6:20 am

http://www.xkcd.com/349/

Observe the ALT text on the comic.

Haven't seen a PR on that one...
To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:10 pm

In response to the comic.... after recently coming back to OpenBSD after
many years of not using it often, I found it refreshingly simple and easy to
install compared to the average Linux stuff out today! Dual-boot,
single-boot, etc... it's all very straight-forward with some of the best man
pages anywhere! Quickest install of any Unix-like OS... I can do it in 2 - 5
minutes with my eyes closed... how the comic strip dude ended-up ruining two
systems and being threatened by sharks is beyond me... I think the chick
needs to get a new boyfriend :)

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To: MISC <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 2:09 pm

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To: Richard Wilson <richard.wilson@...>
Cc: misc >> OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 6:57 am

What do they mean by this?


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Edd

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To: Edd Barrett <vext01@...>
Cc: Richard Wilson <richard.wilson@...>, misc >> OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 7:55 am

Its a joke, I think everyone experienced at least once to some extent 
installing another OS and ending up in a mess. OpenBSD is used only for
the ``only security issue'' part hinting at our slogan.

xkcd is one of the best comics that I am aware of.
To: Paul Irofti <bulibuta@...>
Cc: Edd Barrett <vext01@...>, Richard Wilson <richard.wilson@...>, misc >> OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:15 am

Is there OpenBSD actually mentioned anywhere?

Regards,
David
To: David Vasek <vasek@...>
Cc: Paul Irofti <bulibuta@...>, Edd Barrett <vext01@...>, Richard Wilson <richard.wilson@...>, misc >> OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:28 am

Yes read the alt text of the picture.
To: Paul Irofti <bulibuta@...>
Cc: Edd Barrett <vext01@...>, Richard Wilson <richard.wilson@...>, misc >> OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:24 am

Hmm, I see. Not all browsers display properly. Source always helps. It's a 
title, not an ALT, btw.

Regards,
David
To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:19 am

in the browsers I have within easy reach here (Konqueror, Firefox and
that Microsoft thing) the text only displays on mouseover

-- 
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http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
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To: Peter N. M. Hansteen <peter@...>
Cc: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 11:49 am

The Lynx displays only 'alt', not 'title', texts. Old Netscape Navigators
display only alt text on mouseover and no title, too. Quite likely others.
Some do, some don't. I saw only BSD in the cartoon, nothing about OpenBSD
anywhere. My fault, sorry. We are getting off-topic now.

Regards,
David
To: David Vasek <vasek@...>
Cc: Peter N. M. Hansteen <peter@...>, <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 2:32 pm

Salut,


That behavior is actually correct since title= is for annotations to the
image while alt= is for the case when the image cannot at all be displayed.
(I'm sure that's not really OpenBSD related though.)

				Tonnerre

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To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 11:25 am

that's what title= is for...

a botched dual install, making the artist suffer,
and voila we have art.  disk partitioning legacies
will be humankind's downfall eventually.


but can't call yerself a unix guru if havent fu*ed up
dual boot at least once :]

-f
-- 
if you have to travel on a titanic, why not go first class?
To: frantisek holop <minusf@...>
Cc: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 12:14 pm

never fucked up a dual boot. Only tried it two times and both times it
worked. Dual boot is for sissies who can't get a second machine.

//art
To: OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 3:40 am

[...]

Never knew that "non-dualboot=&gt;non-sissy" folks carry around multiple
machines with them. ;-)

-Amarendra
To: OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 4:05 am

One possible theory is you need to be a non-sissy in order to be able
to lug them around

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
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To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 11:35 pm

No, dual boot is for sissies who can't commit to a real OS.

(Now how do I hide those mail headers...)
To: Artur Grabowski <art@...>
Cc: frantisek holop <minusf@...>, <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 7:14 pm

dual booting is having two kernels. bsd and bsd.working.
To: David Gwynne <loki@...>
Cc: frantisek holop <minusf@...>, <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:30 pm

Oh.. I've fucked up that many times.

Always amusing. I once even had a kernel named:
bsd.do_not_remove_this_art_really
that Bob put there after the third time I had to borrow a dock from him to
reinstall my laptop.

//art
To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:18 pm

I've always found the immutable bsd.rd to be a safe bet.

-- 
Travers Buda
To: OpenBSD <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 7:57 pm

hahahah, nice.

that being said as a complete newbie with just the help from the FAQ
and a calculator I never messed up a dual boot.


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To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 2:13 pm

single boot is for sissies who drag around 3 notebooks with themselves :p


-f
-- 
unicorns aren't myth, virgins are!
To: frantisek holop <minusf@...>
Cc: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:43 pm

I guess you've never hacked the kernel seriously and gotten annoyed by the
music stopping when you need to reboot a new kernel.

//art
To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:11 pm

Yeah, but people think you're uber-leet when you bust out three
machines in a coffee shop and use them all at the same time.

Yes, I do have six hands.

-- 
Travers Buda
To: Artur Grabowski <art@...>
Cc: frantisek holop <minusf@...>, <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 1:23 pm

doh!
i have more than one and i dual-boot most of 'em (:
cu
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    paranoic mickey       (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)
To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 1:06 pm

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Either you knew everything then or you got incredibly lucky. Lots of
times, you aren't lucky even if you knew it all. Maybe if it all went
wrong, you'd have lost all partitions and would be to blame. We all
learn from mistakes and there is absolutely nothing "wrong" about
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To: misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 10:48 pm

If we define "Guru" as one who knows the wisdom of the creator, Art is
no guru.

He's a creator. :)

Nick.
To: Nick Holland <nick@...>
Cc: misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 11:24 pm

Ya but... Art imitates life. ;-)

jcr
To: V. Karthik Kumar <karthikkumar@...>
Cc: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 1:37 pm

no, the "wrong" part is in actually trying. :)

//art
To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 2:26 pm

W/ "recent" changes to bootloader why _shouldn't_ you dualboot
i386 and amd64 on your amd64 laptop? ;-P


Regards
Johan M:son Linfman
To: Johan Mson Lindman <jl@...>
Cc: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 4:35 pm

Because then I'd spend more time booting and less time hacking. :)

//art
To: <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 11:43 am

i did fu*k up a fair amount of dual boots but i've not reached guru
status yet ;-)

Gilles

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To: Edd Barrett <vext01@...>, Richard Wilson <richard.wilson@...>, misc >> OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:11 am

poor dude pbly cannot do adding proper in his disklabel...
MATH WORKS BITCHES!
cu
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    paranoic mickey       (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)
To: mickey <mickey@...>
Cc: OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 3:47 pm

The 'poor dude' is known for posting smart, mathy, and generally
insightful comics. Try browsing through his comics some.

As for me, the comic was perfectly timed. Last weekend I decided that
rather than doing any of the actual work that I was supposed to be
doing, I would set up my home workstation to dual-boot Windows and
OpenBSD. It's got two physical hard drives on it, so piece of cake.
I'd be done in a few minutes...

Except, for some reason, at some point during the install -- almost
certainly my fault, though I retraced my steps and can't figure out
where -- the OpenBSD installer trashed the disklabel on the Windows
drive.

The MBR was still intact, NTLDR would come up, but then it couldn't
find anything to boot. Even better, I didn't have a usable Windows
disk to perform a repair on the file system (it's a second-hand
system).

The workstation was using a WG111 for its network interface, which
OpenBSD doesn't have support for yet because Netgear are punks
sometimes. Wouldn't've been a big deal, except I'd just donated my
last five feet of cat5 to a job last week, and I didn't have the $$
for a network cable that weekend.

It went on like that for a while and I ended up enjoying a very
restful weekend instead of getting any work done.

Monday morning, I was greeted by that XKCD comic.

- R.
To: OpenBSD-Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 12:14 pm

'poor dude' probably never even tried... did you actually read the comic?
meh. I find it more interesting that "BSD" appearently defaults to
OpenBSD and not FreeBSD here.

-Nick
To: Nick Guenther <kousue@...>
Cc: OpenBSD-Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:05 pm

That's because FreeBSD _is_ linux, with perhaps a bit more mature
codebase. =P

-- 
Travers Buda
To: OpenBSD-Misc <misc@...>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2007 - 2:16 pm

it's for the massses.  still more people know "bsd"
than any of the bsd's by name.

or perhaps the fear that all the ./ crowd will stop reading
the comics if the author sees the openbsd light...

i hope i will live to see the day when openbsd is in penny arcade :]

-f
-- 
anything is possible, unless it's not.
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