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Pau Amaro-Seoane
apm -S freezes the laptop

Hi,

this is a fujitsu siemens amilo 1425M; dmesg can be read here

www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/dmesg_FJS_Amilo1425.txt (OpenBSD 4.2, installed
today from CD)

ok... I changed apmd flags to apmd_flags="" because I noticed that
when I close the lid, the "suspend" light blinks and the screen gets
black and so remains it until I press again the power bottom. I hoped
that, maybe, the laptop could suspend via apm.

But the result is different. Closing the lid yields the same result,
but if I type apm -S or ...

Nov 1, 7:15 pm 2007
Travers Buda
Re: apm -S freezes the laptop

Suspend-to-whatever is not something you should spend too much time
worrying about. It's likely not going to work. Causes:
Buggy BIOS.
Poor design of APM/ACPI.
Poor implementation of the aforementioned.
Other misc reasons.

I've pretty much never seen it work on any OS, anywhere. And IMHO,
it's hopeless, if not a pain in the ass, to get vendor specific
specs for every machine out there, test all of them, etc.

--
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Nov 1, 7:34 pm 2007
Stuart Henderson
Re: apm -S freezes the laptop

Sssh, don't tell my X40.

Nov 1, 7:58 pm 2007
David Walker
Re: Wireless problems.

Clarification.
From ifconfig(8):
bssid bssid
Set the desired BSSID for IEEE 802.11-based wireless network interfaces.
and:
nwid id
Configure network ID for IEEE 802.11-based wireless network interfaces.
The id can either be any text string up to 32 characters in length, or a
series of hexadecimal digits up to 64 digits. The empty string allows the
interface to connect to any available access points. Note that network ID
is synonymous with Extended Service Set ID (ESSID).

The nwid is the user...

Nov 1, 6:15 pm 2007
J.D. Carlson
BIND and /var/arandom missing fix

I have a server running OpenBSD 4.2-current and acting as a
name server. It always has these messages in the /var/log/daemon
file upon startup:

Oct 27 05:51:38 racine named[3780]: could not open entropy \
source /dev/arandom: file not found
Oct 27 05:51:38 racine named[3780]: using pre-chroot entropy \
source /dev/arandom

That never bothered me, until I needed to use Men and Mice
DNS Server Controller management tools on my OBSD name server,
but that is another story.

Just creating...

Nov 1, 2:38 pm 2007
Theo de Raadt
Re: BIND and /var/arandom missing fix

Ignore the messages. They mean nothing. Our BIND, when running,
does not use that stupid mechanism for entropy.

Nov 1, 3:53 pm 2007
Bibby
Where is 'cdrom42.fs'? 4.2 -release

Hi, all.

Part of file: 4.2/i386/INSTALL.i386:
---

cdrom42.fs The i386 boot and installation 2.88MB
floppy image that contains almost all OpenBSD
drivers; see below.
If i want to use 'mkisofs' to create a custom iso image(e.g, add some
binary packages), which file should i use for the '-b' option?

Thanks very much.

--
Bibby(Huangbin Zhang)
OpenBSD User in China Mainland: http://www.OpenBSDonly.org/

Nov 1, 3:12 pm 2007
David Walker
Wireless problems.

Hiya.

I connect to the internet via a wireless LAN.
I prefer to use dhcp and let the server assign an ip, etcetera.
This is simple to do with OpenBSD.
echo dhcp > hostname.device

The problem is the other networks in the area.
When I boot, my wireless finds the first available (so it seems) access
point available that will cough up anything and attach itself.

Other than communicating with other WLAN operators and asking them to set
MAC access control (if I can find out who they are) an opti...

Nov 1, 2:22 pm 2007
Aaron W. Hsu
Re: Wireless problems.

Hey David,

If you read hostname.if(5), you'll see that you can pass any options that are
valid for the device using this file. I believe ifconfig(8) provides more
information on the options.

e.g.-- dhcp nwid something

Is this what you meant?

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Nov 1, 3:52 pm 2007
David Walker
Re: Wireless problems.

Cheers.

That looks exactly correct. ifconfig(8).
Specifically "IEEE 802.11 (WIRELESS DEVICES)".
Quote:
bssid bssid
Set the desired BSSID for IEEE 802.11-based wireless network interfaces.

Presumably as you say I can change my hostname.if from 'dhcp' to 'dhcp SSID'.
I will find out.

Best wishes,

Nov 1, 4:35 pm 2007
Bibby
Re: When will OpenBSD support UTF8?

> utf-8 isn't an OS-level thing. You need to do it in every app.

I think he talked about OpenBSD locale support in libc.
--
Michael Bibby
RedHat + OpenBSD

Nov 1, 2:37 pm 2007
Allie D.
Re: OpenBSD 4.2 released Nov 1, 2007

I think I sent out my thanks before....but what the hell, thanks again for
another kick ass release.
--
~Allie D.

Nov 1, 2:06 pm 2007
Wim Vandeputte
Amsterdam user meeting Cafe De Deugniet, Nov 2, 2007, Amster...

hey,

Some local Dutch people are meeting up in Amsterdam at Cafe De Deugniet
tomorrow.

I can't attend but I' shipped a big box of 4.2 stuff so there will
be plenty of interesting stuff

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20071017100734&mode=expanded&...

If you need more info, check the undeadly thread of talk to Bart (in cc:)

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Nov 1, 1:10 am 2007
Florian Fuessl
multipath routing with OpenBGPD

Hi,

Has anyone already tried to use multipath routing for equal BGP4 peer routes
or are there any plans to implement this feature into OpenBGPD?

-Florian

Nov 1, 11:17 am 2007
Claudio Jeker
Re: multipath routing with OpenBGPD

No there is no plan to do that in BGPD. Multipath support in BGP4 is
cumbersome and fragile. Only very few routes would end up as being
considered as an equal cost path. So it is not worth the effort.

Nov 1, 11:45 am 2007
Henning Brauer
Re: multipath routing with OpenBGPD

not really on the agenda, at least not short-term.

well, who knows. sometimes somebody asks for it and is willing to fund
teh development, then it usually gets done quickly.

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Nov 1, 11:39 am 2007
Juan Miscaro
When will OpenBSD support UTF8?

Hi gang.

Is there any priority for having OpenBSD support UTF8?

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Nov 1, 10:51 am 2007
Nick Guenther
Re: When will OpenBSD support UTF8?

utf-8 isn't an OS-level thing. You need to do it in every app.
Googling, the first result brings up
http://osdir.com/ml/os.openbsd.ports/2004-02/msg00376.html as an
example.

Nov 1, 11:22 am 2007
Juan Miscaro
Re: When will OpenBSD support UTF8?

Thanks.

I saw that post before resorting to the list but as it was 3.5 years
ago I thought its info had a good chance of being outdated.

Nov 1, 12:37 pm 2007
Frans Haarman
4.2 Trouble with HP Notebook

Hello,

I am trying to install 4.2 on my HP. It boots & installs fine, but after the
install the
kernel stops at:

pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support

Then nothing, I waited for 15 minutes, then rebooted, reinstalled, but no
luck.

Anyway to disable that mtrr stuff ?

Frans Haarman
De Giessen Automatisering B.V.

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Nov 1, 10:19 am 2007
Paul de Weerd
Re: 4.2 Trouble with HP Notebook

On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 03:19:11PM +0100, Frans Haarman wrote:
| Hello,
|
| I am trying to install 4.2 on my HP. It boots & installs fine, but after
the
| install the
| kernel stops at:
|
| pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
| mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
|
| Then nothing, I waited for 15 minutes, then rebooted, reinstalled, but no
| luck.
|
| Anyway to disable that mtrr stuff ?

The same way you disable just about every driver out there

At the boot prompt type ...

Nov 1, 11:13 am 2007
Frans Haarman
Re: 4.2 Trouble with HP Notebook

This gives me "can't disable pseudo device"

Nov 1, 11:45 am 2007
Tobias Ulmer
Re: 4.2 Trouble with HP Notebook

you can't

try
- enable acpi, disable apm

Nov 1, 11:08 am 2007
Frans Haarman
Re: 4.2 Trouble with HP Notebook

Frans Haarman
De Giessen Automatisering B.V.

Technische Dienst
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Fax : (0184) 61 12 46
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Verzonden: donderdag 1 november 2007 16:08
Aan: Frans Haarman
CC: misc@openbsd.org
Onderwerp: Re: 4.2 Trouble with HP Notebook

you can't

try
- ena...

Nov 1, 11:46 am 2007
Valery Masiutsin
Re: 4.2 Trouble with HP Notebook

Hello,Frans !

What hp model do you have ?
A lot of their models - models from nxXXXX line is a good example,
have broken acpi tables in BIOS, it means you won't be able to get acpi working.

Regards Valery

Nov 1, 1:51 pm 2007
Przemysław Pawełczyk
Bad MD5 of install42.iso

Hi,

I dloaded the file from two different servers.
Here's what I got running md5sum:

1) MD5s for downloaded files
md5sum install42.iso
03dc43a1d18d3003843a1f13b3861917 install42.iso

Just for checking:
md5sum cd42.iso
7d4ba197d25088a4ad487f2830028c8d cd42.iso

2) The numbers from MD5 official file:
MD5 (install42.iso) = b3a80c9010716ebc997571a1609cf334

Just for checking:
MD5 (cd42.iso) = 7d4ba197d25088a4ad487f2830028c8d

What should I do? To burn it or not to burn?

Regards,
pp

...

Nov 1, 9:58 am 2007
Douglas A. Tutty
Re: Bad MD5 of install42.iso

To clarify, the md5sum on the files you downloaded from two different
servers were identical with each other (eliminating download problem)
but different from what is stated in the MD5 file.

If this is not true and each download produced a different MD5, try
using rsync to an rsync server to fix the iso file you downloaded.

Doug.

Nov 1, 10:51 am 2007
Constantine A. Murenin
Re: Bad MD5 of install42.iso

Yes, 03dc43a1d18d3003843a1f13b3861917 is the correct md5 for i386/install42.iso.

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-www&m=119391863124282&w=2

Best regards,
Constantine.

Nov 1, 10:30 am 2007
Todd C. Miller
Re: Bad MD5 of install42.iso

In message <20071101145842.c1dd5541.pp@kv.net.pl>

03dc43a1d18d3003843a1f13b3861917 is correct. The MD5 file has been
updated but will take some time to propagate to the mirrors.

- todd

Nov 1, 10:22 am 2007
Richard Wilson
Re: Bad MD5 of install42.iso

I have also noticed that the MD5 files (at least for i386 and amd64) on
spargel.kd85.com do not contain hashes for the x*42.tgz files. I expect
this is a related issue?

Si1entDave

Nov 1, 10:43 am 2007
ropers
Re: Bad MD5 of install42.iso

Could you specify exactly which server you have the bad iso from?

If you re-download the iso from the same server, is the md5 still bad?

It goes w/o saying that one shouldn't burn isos where the md5 already
red flags the file.

Nov 1, 10:14 am 2007
Markus Wernig
deploy openssl patch

Dear list

I have a couple of 4.1 firewalls that I would like to upgrade to 4.2.
Before taking them online again I'd like to deploy the openssl patch
from ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.2/common/002_openssl.patch

Being perimeter firewalls, those systems don't have compile tools
installed. I would thus need to pre-compile libssl on a 4.2 buildhost
and deploy it onto the firewalls. I've been looking through the
documentation but did not find a "good" way to do this, because openssl ...

Nov 1, 6:33 am 2007
Clint Pachl
Re: deploy openssl patch

I feel your pain. Others have dissed on you for not having compile tools
on your hosts and assume you're doing it for security reasons. I don't
know your reason, but I only have compile tools on my build system. I
create binary patches (see script below) and distribute across the
network. Who the hell wants 20 (# of servers in my network) builds
cranking on all your machines in the network? What a nightmare. What if
they all fail? Worse yet, what if one fails? Someone is going to say,
"scrip...

Nov 1, 5:25 pm 2007
Maurice Janssen
Re: deploy openssl patch

What's wrong with building a release? It's well documented, supported
and works great.

If you don't want to build your own release and you trust me, you can
use the filesets from
ftp://ftp.su.se/pub/mirrors/openbsd_stable/4.2-stable/i386/
These are built from the stable tree after the SSL-patch was made
available.

Maurice

Nov 1, 7:55 am 2007
Nick Holland
Re: deploy openssl patch

And by making security updates more difficult, you think you have
improved security, right?

As you have demonstrated, you have not. If an attacker can use your
system's compile tools, they can also install the compile tools. But
it DOES take you longer to do all you can to keep them out in the first

yes, just make a release, and install that.

Or, install the compilation tools where you need them and be done with
it.

Nick.

Nov 1, 7:02 am 2007
z0mbix
Re: deploy openssl patch

http://openbsdbinpatch.sourceforge.net/

This isn't supported by the OpenBSD developers, but it works for me
and many others.

Nov 1, 6:40 am 2007
MohanKumar Shah - TL...
host name should be in lower caps

Hi all,

Is host name subjected to lower caps only?

Thanks-n-Regards,

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Nov 1, 2:11 am 2007
Chris Zakelj
Installation troubles

Evening... I'm trying install my fresh 4.2 CDs on a system that is
destined to become a samba server and build machine for CF-based
firewalls. Only I'm having a problem (obviously). This is the third
release where I'm having this issue, but previously I just chalked it up
to old, cranky CDROM drives, and went with FTP. But given this is all
new hardware, time to figure out what's really happening.

This system is fresh-built amd64 (but will be running/compiling all i386
binaries to avoid ha...

Oct 31, 11:55 pm 2007
Richard Toohey
Re: Installation troubles

Asking the obvious questions to eliminate them first ...

1. Official CDs?

2. Can you read/copy the CD on *any* machines / *any* OS?

3. Specifically - if you FTP install OpenBSD , can you then mount /
copy / do anything with the CD?

4. dmesg(s)

Personal experience ...

I have installed 3.8 to 4.2 from CDs on machines from P3 500 to
Pentium D 2.something via Celeron 900Mhz (Dells, HPs, Compaqs,
desktops and laptops) - only real issue was a bogus 4.1 CD than no
machine would touch....

Nov 1, 5:25 am 2007
Chris Zakelj
Re: Installation troubles

1. Yes, they're official CDs straight from austin@
2. Yes, both my WinXP laptop and WinXP-64 desktop can read/copy
3. I vaguely recall installing packages from one of them after doing
the FTP install, but I'll try again later tonight.
4. I'd love to, but except for the 486 (stuffed in a closet), they
don't have serial ports to redirect to.

Nov 1, 8:47 am 2007
Chris Zakelj
Re: Installation troubles

Picked up a USB to serial converter on the way home from the office.
Here's a complete installation attempt using the 4.2 i386 CD:

>> OpenBSD/i386 CDBOOT 2.01
boot>
booting cd0a:/4.2/i386/bsd.rd: 4733076+742936 [52+174448+160579]=0x58ad08
entry point at 0x200120*
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1995-2007 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.
http://www.OpenBSD.org

OpenBSD 4.2 (RAMDISK_CD)...

Nov 1, 6:50 pm 2007
Theo de Raadt
OpenBSD 4.2 release November 1, 2007

Note that 4.2 has install ISO files for most architectures. They are
roughly 230MB in size. If you choose to use those, please avoid also
fetching the base42.tgz, and other such files, since they are included
in the ISO image. If you choose to NOT use the ISO image, then.. well
it's kind of obvious. There is no need to put double the load onto the
ftp mirrors.

Enjoy.
Nov 1, 2007.

We are pleased to announce the official release of OpenBSD 4.2.
This is our 22nd release on CD-ROM (and 23rd via...

Oct 31, 11:41 pm 2007
Leonardo Rodrigues
Re: OpenBSD 4.2 release November 1, 2007

May the IPV6 Samurai rest in peace. We are all thankful for his work.

And cheers to yet another release =)

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Nov 1, 2:38 am 2007
Craig Brozefsky
Re: OpenBSD 4.2 release November 1, 2007

Perhaps a theme for a future release is shaping up. Something like
Yojimbo or Sanjuro (sp?) with Puffy as the wandering samurai. Yojimbo
is prolly an easier storyline to adapt.

I installed the base system a few days ago, and updated my ports last
night. I appreciate how straightfoward the whole process was.

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Nov 1, 1:57 pm 2007
Insan Praja SW
Re: OpenBSD 4.2 release November 1, 2007

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:57:50 +0700, Craig Brozefsky <craig@red-bean.com>
Big thanks to all OpenBSD developer, such a cutting-edge you got there
man..
Thanks a lot!

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Nov 1, 3:05 pm 2007
ropers
Re: OpenBSD 4.2 release November 1, 2007

Which Yojimbo are you referring to? The Kurosawa film?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yojimbo_%28film%29

Nov 1, 2:26 pm 2007
Craig Brozefsky
Re: OpenBSD 4.2 release November 1, 2007

Yah, where he strolls into a town in the middle of a gang war and sets
the two sides against one another. Mifune is awesome.

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Nov 1, 2:30 pm 2007
Nenhum_de_Nos
keeping OBSD up to date and secure throughout time

hail all,

I use FreeBSD for a long time and now I'm changing my routers slowly
to OpenBSD. I have one router running 4.2-current (or anything like
this, uname shows 4.2 but motd shows 4.2-current. I confess this still
confuses me) and I'm studying it to be confident enough to make it the
one.

but my main question is, how to make obsd allways up to date, keeping
it bug free. mas from time to time there is security bugs found and so
on.

for what I saw in obsd web
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Oct 31, 10:28 pm 2007
Steve Shockley
Re: keeping OBSD up to date and secure throughout time

Simple way: upgrade every six months, and follow the -stable branch.

Complex way: Follow -current, upgrade your machines almost constantly.

If you have anything approaching "production", run -stable. Downgrading
is difficult, and sooner or later you'll hit something that makes your
life difficult, like changing a major feature (ipf -> pf) or upgrading

You can do an "unpack the install files over the running OS" upgrade,
that's detailed in the upgrade guide in the FAQ. Better yet, you ...

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