On 10/6/07, Nick Guenther <kousue@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 10/6/07, Karl SjC6dahl - dunceor <dunceor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10/6/07, Nick Guenther <kousue@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I've got me a macbook and I'm figuring out how to install OpenBSD on
> > > it (I'm going to see if I can do it without BootCamp, appearently it's
> > > possible: http://refit.sourceforge.net/myths/). One of my friends
> > > mentioned "too bad about the evil" to me and so I started digging into
> > > one of the evils: Trusted Computing. How do I find out if this mac has
> > > a TPM chip? Apple is never open about this fact.
> > >
> > > This page <http://attivissimo.blogspot.com/2006/04/trusted-computing-chips-found-in-intel.html>
> > > reports that some macs have them and some don't. It also says that in
> > > linux you can check `ioreg` for mentions of TPM.
> > >
> > > What would the equivalent method in OpenBSD? Would the chip show up in
> > > dmesg? Here's one dmesg
> > > http://erdelynet.com/tech/openbsd/openbsd-on-intel-mac-mini/ and I
> > > don't see anything that looks like a TPM chip but I'm not sure what
> > > all the devices are.
> > >
> > > If I can't know for sure from software I plan on cracking the case and
> > > searching for one physically anyway.
> > >
> > > -Nick
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I have a Macbook 2,1 that I run OpenBSD exclusively on. No Boot camp
> > or anything special. Just OpenBSD as it is.
>
> ooh, first: thanks for your quick response.
>
> What *is* BootCamp? I know it's mostly just repartitioning software
> but the readme that comes with it seems to imply that it install
> certain special drivers to let you use the mac keyboard under windows
> (i.e. Mac-Click is mapped to right click, and so on).
> Although I guess those would just be those Windows drivers, wouldn't they...
>

Boot camp is both a tool to handle dual boot of operating systems but
it also provide drivers for the apple hardware so Windows can use it.

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> > There are a few things you need to know before you install. You will
> > need acpi and you will need an external USB-keyboard during
> > installization.
>
> Why do you need acpi? I did read that and I did make myself an
> acpi-enabled kernel that I can boot from if I choose (though really I
> could just do drop into config from boot>, right?) but the default is
> to boot the normal i386/bsd.rd and when I let it do that it boots fine
> and gets to the install prompt. What's the problem?

Ok then it has started to get better because in the beginning I
couldn't even get to the install prompt because it hang on some usb
controller. ACPI is needed to get some of the drivers to work
correctly. And yes enable it in ukc is enough.

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>
> I did indeed run into the problem of the keyboard not working during
> install. Why is that? Is the ramdisk kernel just missing some drivers?
>
> > I use AMD64 and GENERIC.MP.
>
> Is there an advantage to AMD64 over i386? My default was to grab i386
> but I'm not particularly tied to it.

Well the new Intel Core 2 Duo are Intels version of AMD64 and there
fore the closest thing you should use. You could use i386 also and
there might not be that much difference. I have only tried AMD64.

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> > I did some googling about TPM in macbook and newer Apple hardware and
> > it seems like there isn't one.
> > http://www.osxbook.com/book/bonus/chapter10/tpm/
> mm I found this one too, it's linked at the end of the link I gave.
>
> > http://www.tuaw.com/2006/11/02/apple-drops-trusted-computing/
> This just references the link I gave.
>
> Still, TPM needs software to run it. It would be a very strange move
> for Apple to somehow hide the TPM from anything besides OS X. I'm
> settled.
>
> >
> > Both these links say newer Apple hardware does not contain it, they
> > only mention Mac Pro and Macbook Pro's though.
>
> I only have a Macbook. Maybe they big-brother anyone who doesn't shell
> out enough (;))?
>
> > There are still a few problems with the macbook, I'm trying to write a
> > driver for Apple system Management Controller, it's not going that
> > good but I should have it working soon. There is a few other problems
> > like bluetooth, iSight camera, IR. Sound is working and trackpad is
> > working.
>
> Oh sweet, that's really nice.
> Related but off topic question: How do I get right-clicking working?
> Do I have to play with X keymaps? I've poked at this from playing on
> zaurus, but I don't really understand it. Links please?
> I'm guessing there's nothing like Appletouch
> <http://www.popies.net/atp/> in OpenBSD right?

I haven't got the right click to work, I do not know if it's possible
to do. It is one of the annoying stuff at the moment and I use an
external USB mouse. I also have problems with the swedish keyboard
layout because {,[ ,] ,} are existing and this is annoying when you
code =) That Appletouch driver you linked to looked old and it's only
for Powerbooks. I know the FreeBSD people has done some work on it so
maybe I can port that later also.

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>
> The SMC controls low-level power functions. Does it do that on its
> own? (i.e. if I sleep while under OpenBSD does the light still
> snore?). Would your driver just instruct the SMC, or actually run it?

Well sleep and such does not work very well in OpenBSD. The screens
turns black after a while but the backlight seems to still be on. This
is controlled by ASMC. The hardware still work in most cases but there
is no way for us to controll it at the moment as the driver could
enable us to.

BR
dunceor

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> > Here is my dmesg:
> > OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #8: Sat Sep 22 19:44:03 CEST 2007
> >     dunc@mac.linuxlamers.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
> > real mem = 2114535424 (2016MB)
> > avail mem = 2041937920 (1947MB)
> > mainbus0 at root
> > bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe7460 (37 entries)
> > bios0: vendor Apple Inc. version "    MB21.88Z.00A5.B06.0704201208"
> > date 04/20/07
> > bios0: Apple Inc. MacBook2,1
> > acpi0 at mainbus0: rev 0
> > acpi0: tables DSDT HPET APIC MCFG ASF! SBST ECDT FACP SSDT SSDT SSDT
> > acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
> > acpi device at acpi0 from table DSDT not configured
> > acpihpet0 at acpi0 table HPET: 14318179 Hz
> > acpimadt0 at acpi0 table APIC addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
> > cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> > cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz, 2161.57 MHz
> > cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG
> > cpu0: 4MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
> > cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz
> > cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
> > cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz, 2161.25 MHz
> > cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG
> > cpu1: 4MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
> > ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 1 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
> > ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 1
> > acpi device at acpi0 from table MCFG not configured
> > acpi device at acpi0 from table ASF! not configured
> > acpi device at acpi0 from table SBST not configured
> > acpi device at acpi0 from table ECDT not configured
> > acpi device at acpi0 from table FACP not configured
> > acpi device at acpi0 from table SSDT not configured
> > acpi device at acpi0 from table SSDT not configured
> > acpi device at acpi0 from table SSDT not configured
> > acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
> > acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (RP01)
> > acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (RP02)
> > acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCIB)
> > acpiec0 at acpi0: EC__
> > acpicpu0 at acpi0 C3, C2
> > acpicpu1 at acpi0 C3, C2
> > acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit offline
> > acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID0
> > acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
> > acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB
> > acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0: model: ASMB016 serial:  type: LION016 oem: DPON016
> > cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x06130d2b06000b25
> > cpu0: using only highest, current and lowest power states
> > cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1833 MHz (1292 mV): speeds: 2167, 1833, 1000 MHz
> > pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
> > pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945GM MCH" rev 0x03
> > vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03
> > wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> > wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> > "Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
> > vendor "Intel", unknown product 0x27a3 (class DASP subclass Time and
> > Frequency, rev 0x03) at pci0 dev 7 function 0 not configured
> > azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x02:
> > apic 1 int 22 (irq 10)
> > azalia0: host: High Definition Audio rev. 1.0
> > azalia0: codec: Sigmatel STAC9221 (rev. 52.1), HDA version 1.0
> > audio0 at azalia0
> > ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02
> > pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
> > mskc0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Marvell Yukon 88E8053" rev 0x22,
> > Yukon-2 EC rev. A3 (0x2): apic 1 int 16 (irq 11)
> > msk0 at mskc0 port A: address 00:19:e3:41:b1:1d
> > eephy0 at msk0 phy 0: Marvell 88E1111 Gigabit PHY, rev. 2
> > ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02
> > pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
> > "Atheros AR5418" rev 0x01 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 not configured
> > uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1
> > int 21 (irq 11)
> > uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1
> > int 19 (irq 11)
> > uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1
> > int 18 (irq 11)
> > uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1
> > int 16 (irq 11)
> > ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1
> > int 21 (irq 11)
> > usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
> > uhub0 at usb0: "Intel EHCI root hub", rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
> > ppb2 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0xe2
> > pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
> > "AT&T/Lucent FW322 1394" rev 0x61 at pci3 dev 3 function 0 not configured
> > pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801GBM LPC" rev 0x02
> > pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801GB IDE" rev 0x02: DMA,
> > channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to
> > compatibility
> > atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0
> > scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
> > cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <MATSHITA, DVD-R UJ-857E, ZB0E> SCSI0
> > 5/cdrom removable
> > cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
> > pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives)
> > pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801GBM SATA" rev 0x02: DMA,
> > channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI
> > pciide1: using apic 1 int 19 (irq 11) for native-PCI interrupt
> > wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 1: <ST9120822AS>
> > wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 114473MB, 234441648 sectors
> > wd0(pciide1:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
> > ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801GB SMBus" rev 0x02: apic
> > 1 int 19 (irq 11)
> > iic0 at ichiic0
> > iic0: addr 0x48 00=3b 01=00 02=4b 03=50
> > usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
> > uhub1 at usb1: "Intel UHCI root hub", rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> > usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
> > uhub2 at usb2: "Intel UHCI root hub", rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> > usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
> > uhub3 at usb3: "Intel UHCI root hub", rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> > usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
> > uhub4 at usb4: "Intel UHCI root hub", rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> > isa0 at pcib0
> > isadma0 at isa0
> > pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> > midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker>
> > spkr0 at pcppi0
> > pctr: user-level performance counters enabled
> > ugen0 at uhub0 port 4
> > ugen0: "Apple Computer Bluetooth", rev 2.00/0.0c, addr 2
> > uhidev0 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0
> > uhidev0: "vendor 0x062a product 0x0001", rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1
> > ums0 at uhidev0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
> > wsmouse0 at ums0 mux 0
> > uhidev1 at uhub4 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0
> > uhidev1: "Apple Computer ADB device", rev 2.00/19.65, addr 2, iclass 3/1
> > uhidev2 at uhub3 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0ukbd0 at uhidev1: 8
> > modifier keys, 6 key codes
> >
> > uhidev2: "Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver", rev 2.00/1.10, addr 2, iclass 3/0
> > uhidev2: 38 report ids
> > uhid0 at uhidev2 reportid 36: input=4, output=0, feature=0
> > uhid1 at uhidev2 reportid 37: input=4, output=0, feature=0
> > uhid2 at uhidev2 reportid 38: input=4, output=0, feature=0
> > wskbd0 at ukbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> > uhidev3 at uhub4 port 1 configuration 1 interface 1
> > uhidev3: "Apple Computer ADB device", rev 2.00/19.65, addr 2, iclass 3/1
> > ums1 at uhidev3: 5 buttons
> > wsmouse1 at ums1 mux 0
> > uhidev4 at uhub1 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0
> > uhidev4: "Apple Computer Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad", rev
> > 2.00/0.16, addr 3, iclass 3/1
> > ukbd1 at uhidev4: 8 modifier keys, 5 key codes, country code 13
> > wskbd1 at ukbd1 mux 1
> > wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0
> > uhidev5 at uhub1 port 2 configuration 1 interface 1
> > uhidev5: "Apple Computer Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad", rev
> > 2.00/0.16, addr 3, iclass 3/1
> > uhidev5: 5 report ids
> > ums2 at uhidev5 reportid 2: 3 buttons
> > wsmouse2 at ums2 mux 0
> > ums3 at uhidev5 reportid 5
> > ums3: mouse has no X report
> > uhidev6 at uhub1 port 2 configuration 1 interface 2
> > uhidev6: "Apple Computer Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad", rev
> > 2.00/0.16, addr 3, iclass 3/0
> > uhid3 at uhidev6: input=1, output=0, feature=0
> > dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
> > root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b