I just caved and bought a new enclosure that actually said USB 1.1 backwards compatible.. and guess what? :)

It works! Hooray!!!! :D

[Copy & Pasted]
umass0: JMicron USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: <WDC WD25, 00JB-55REA0, 0K20> SCSI2 0/direct fixed
sd0: 238475MB, 238475 cyl, 64 head, 32 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 488397168 sec total
....

BTW, just created a partition using OpenBSD 4....

Unless you set this up yourself, OpenBSD does not do anything like this.
Note, this does not help if the disks come with bogus firmware from the
factory.

-Toby.
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I've been working on it. libtool issues and crashing (use after
free()) problems are slowing me down. at this point, I'm unsure
whether it's really any better than esound.

OTOH, I've been rather impressed with artsd. recording audio from
radio(4) while listening to streaming mp3s using the same sound card
(in -current of course). is that even possible with esound? kinda

probably not; at least not anytime soon.

something for "newbie hackers" to work on: an ISC licensed audio daemon.

--...

Group accounts with ssh keys controlling access.

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archaic is the idea that you would need two programs, or that a single
program would need to open /dev/audio twice, for such purpose.

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SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

Yes, it is a significant problem that we won't hand-hold whiners who
could by now be digging for things to fix. There are hundreds of ways
to self-motivate, but instead we get whine whine whine.

We've got a PR database with bugs in it, and we NEVER get fixes from
outsiders. That's not news to anyone, if they actually wanted to do
more than whine whine whine.

Hey, don't blame us if many of you guys are lazy whiners.

STOP telling us that we need to do more than we already do.

If you want t...

Surely the PR list is a fairly obvious place to look for things that need
fixing?

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Benjamin A'Lee :: benjamin.alee@subvert.org.uk
Subvert Technologies :: http://subvert.org.uk/

the PR database is quite well visible on the OpenBSD website. It's

On 31.10-09:25, Theo de Raadt wrote:

that is a shame. i can probably better understand the relectance to
re-visit this if it has failed before. perhaps, others are right,
perhaps linux can tolerate it because it's not as good as openbsd.

as for the whining. i'm not. nor am i asking anyone to do anything
they are not happy to do. some communities thrive on communication,
feedback and ideas. i'm new to the openbsd community.

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On 31.10-08:40, Theo de Raadt wrote:

and i would suggest that the severe and prevelant attitude toward the
possibilty of poor patches or under-educated actions is the most
significant barrier to encouraging new/young developers.

Well that's the point of it; or at least, a useful side-effect.
Linux can get away with sending fanboi masses at its code because it's
fine with fanboi masses poking at all parts of the kernel, no matter
how secure it may be. Right?

I don't know about that, but the bug list seems to work well around
here. The time I submitted a patch, it was for some dinky little
bug that probably no one would ever hit (who's playing text mode
star trek these days?) but Theo picked it up in a day or two. While
some dinky little bug reports I sent to other less "elitist" projects
have sat out there for years. I can understand, a lot of projects,
free or otherwise, fall into the trap of having to make a low
priority queue and then never being...

There is no community that you speak of.

There are people who write diffs, and people who _don't_ write diffs.

In that sub-group of people who don't write diffs, there are a few who
whine loudly and say we are the reason why. Boo hoo.

If you're not going to write diffs, stop being whiny babies who say
that you don't write diffs because of us.... either step up to the
plate or shut up.

geez, is this kindergarden?

On 31.10-09:53, Theo de Raadt wrote:

i do write diffs. i have never suggested that you (or any other
developer on this list) are a motivating factor in that, positive or
negative. the fact that i haven't yet writen an openbsd diffs is a
seperate issue.

quite what all this has to do with whether the janitor list is
productive or not is beyond me. you have stated you don't believe
it is, the only reason the discussion continues is around name
calling.

it is all rather perverse and certaina...

Instead of doing something useful like reading code, identifying and
trying to fix bugs, you are whining on misc@ asking ``why are you guys
mean and don't tell me what to do'' stop and think about this attitude
for a second, please.

Development is an involved process, it takes a lot of reading and
commitment to get to the point where you're actually able to do
something useful, and no list or misc@ chit-chat will change it.

And still one thing

When I was try OpenBSD (I think that was 3.8),I use WindowMaker,Xmms and lots
of other packages and sound goes well (video together with music and
etc.).Maybe part of dmesg from your system will be useful for somebody of us.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-misc@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-misc@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
Samuel Proulx
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:17 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: OpenBSD Sound

Hello,

I have been using obsd as my primary des...

oh? NetBSD lets /dev/audio be opened non-exclusively, but AFAICS,
there's no real mixing involved. just a hack to let stupid programs
open /dev/audio twice.

piss-poor, artsd? really? have you tried it in -current? I have not
seen any PRs, nor even any comments about artsd. I use it daily. for
both recording and playback.

esd, yeah, piss-poor. or rather, a classic example of everyone and his
brother "contributing". IMO, anyway.

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no; character devices (such as /dev/audio) keep per-unit state
(encoding, rate, ...). To mix multiple audio streams per-stream
state must be kept. That's why arts/esd/jack/... exist.

-- Alexandre

Unix has always been kind of weak in this area. You need a mixer of
some sort to do this. Not /dev/mixer, which controls audio volumes for
the different hardware devices, but a software mixer.
You'll probably want http://ports.openbsd.nu/audio/esound. There's
something called Pulse which is intended as a drop in (but superior)
replacement for esound, and someone () ported it to OpenBSD, but it's
not in the tree yet.
Reading http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup might be
enlightening; it desc...

Try something like esound or pulseaudio; they run in the background and connect
to your sound card, and opera/xmms/whatever else connect to them instead of
directly to the sound card.

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Subvert Technologies :: http://subvert.org.uk/

hmmm... thanks.

is it possible for you to try:
- with latest version from HEAD
- with a version from 2007/10/28 (before tx descriptor changes)
- with a version from 2007/10/11 (before channel offset changes)

for the following files:
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5xxx.c
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5xxx.h
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5210.c
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5210reg.h
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5210var.h
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5211.c
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5211reg.h
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5211var.h
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5212.c
src/sys/dev/ic/ar5212reg.h
sr...

Leveraging OpenBSD for hostap at home, in the past the wi driver and related
hardware was rock solid and I never had an issue. I've since moved to
802.11g using ral, but I've had issues with it. Most notably, every couple
of weeks, or sometimes every couple of days, the ral card stops accepting
packets and I cannot get any system to associate with it. An ifconfig down
and up on the ral card gets things working again, but the issue seems to
quickly return shortly thereafter and sometimes a reboot is...

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No one wants to see a patch against 4.0.

Few even want to see a patch against 4.2 (only wackos that like to see
"-stable" on the end of their Frankenstein systems).
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