Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

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To: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@...>, <kousue@...>, <misc@...>
Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:26 am

> and i would suggest that the severe and prevelant attitude toward the

No, the severe and prevelent attitude toward the possiblilty of poor
patches or under-educated actions is what makes OpenBSD the most
secure operating system on the planet. It's not perfect but it works.
It is a high stress environment to work in, and guess what, you have
to be prepared to have your work criticized, often brutally. It often
makes the people who must do that criticism look callous, and heck, it's
not fun to do.. This is why we'd prefer people get up to speed on their
own so we have to do it less. Do you think people like having to tell
people their work sucks? Now of course your work would never suck, but
get real, look at 99% of the software you see out there. People's work
*usually* sucks, and none of us are immune from that.

Our experience has been that people who can't learn how
stuff works and find an area they are *passionate* about to work in
do not survive the necessary scrutiny to get completed work done
in that environment. They give up because it's too hard.

So please stop wasting our time, unless you wish to prove us
wrong - which will merely prove us right and gain us another developer
if you manage it.

-Bob

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Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Theo de Raadt, (Wed Oct 31, 10:40 am)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, , (Wed Oct 31, 11:04 am)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Bob Beck, (Wed Oct 31, 11:26 am)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Nick Guenther, (Wed Oct 31, 11:12 am)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, n0g0013, (Wed Oct 31, 11:28 am)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Michael Small, (Wed Oct 31, 12:31 pm)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Dag Richards, (Wed Oct 31, 12:05 pm)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Karel Kulhavy, (Sat Nov 3, 7:29 am)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Darren Spruell, (Sat Nov 3, 3:44 pm)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Gerardo Santana Gómez Garrido..., (Sat Nov 3, 5:49 pm)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors , Theo de Raadt, (Wed Oct 31, 11:53 am)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors , Tony Abernethy, (Wed Oct 31, 1:57 pm)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, n0g0013, (Wed Oct 31, 12:04 pm)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Greg Thomas, (Wed Oct 31, 1:54 pm)
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors, Pierre-Yves Ritschard, (Wed Oct 31, 11:52 am)