Nick Guenther wrote:

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> On 10/31/07, Theo de Raadt  wrote:

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> > They don't need a list.  They could already have started

> coding.  Yet

> > we see how few people actually do start coding.  Instead,

> they choose

> > to write in english...

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> How can we get started on the code unless we have some idea of where

> to start on the code? Sure we could just code whatever, but why would

> we waste time on things that may be useless?

It's almost like

If you've gotta ask,

Don't ask.
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> > > Obviously patches will be subject to peer review. Even if

> a patch isn't

> > > approved, the coder should have learned something new and useful.

> >

> > Yeah, right.

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> I don't understand. Is newbies learning new things a waste to you? Do

> you think they won't really learn anything unless the patch is

> approved? Or will the patches not be subject to peer review? Or are

> you worried at who would pass for peer review getting overwhelmed by a

> huge volume of poor quality patches?

I do not speak for the developers,

but I think maybe I know where they are coming from.

You get into this, not to do some good and useful,

but as a violent and visceral reaction to bad code.

(bad something anyway)

Essentially: This stinks. There's gotta be a better way.

Or this has to be easy.

And go to enourmous trouble to show that it is easy.

Probably closer to mountain climbing than anything in current cs curricula.
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> -Nick