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pauljgreene
Re: Google employment opportunity

Maybe they have smart *engineers*, but the recruiters are, well, there you go .....

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Oct 12, 9:18 pm 2007
David Mack
Google employment opportunity

Hi Theo,

My name is David Mack, and I am a recruiter for the Google.com engineering
team, a dynamic, challenging and fun group, which is responsible for our
Google website, from start to finish.

While doing a search for a specific skill set, I found your contact
information on-line and I wanted to contact you to see if you may be
interested in learning more about opportunities with us. You seem like you
might be a great fit here at Google.

We have a number of exciting projects going on throug...

Oct 12, 8:23 pm 2007
Bren Smith
Re: Google employment opportunity

[snip]

Oh man, and I was wondering what to do on a Friday night. Now *this*
is entertainment! Sit back and prepare to watch the show folks.

Oct 12, 8:46 pm 2007
Frank Hale
Re: Google employment opportunity

OMG a Google employee was dumb enough to spam an entire mailing list
to get to one person. WOW, I thought they hired really smart people.

Oct 12, 8:39 pm 2007
Jona Joachim
Re: Google employment opportunity

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:39:07 -0400

Be gentle with them, they read your mail.

Jona

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build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns
laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and tell you that you
are free." Eris, Goddess Of Chaos, Discord & Confusion

Oct 12, 9:27 pm 2007
Frank Hale
Re: Google employment opportunity

> Be gentle with them, they read your mail.

I'm sorry, It was a cheap shot... maybe I should apply to Google...
maybe stupidity is in... If it is then I am sure to get a job offer...

Oct 12, 9:36 pm 2007
edgars.makna
Re: Server just freeze with no reason

Hmm... good idea! I will try to add some access-list to that server and will see :)

-----Original message-----
From: Maxim Bourmistrov maxim@student.chalmers.se
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:46:17 +0300
To: Edgars MakEa edgars.makna@dtg.lv

Oct 12, 5:22 pm 2007
ropers
Transparent Firewall with NAT

I don't fully understand your email, because some of your sentences
aren't really gramatically correct, and some of them don't seem to me
to be "technologically correct" (ie. the technology questions in them
don't seem to make sense to me). From reading this thread, I suspect
others are having similar problems. Let me look at what you wrote:

Let me stop you there. Normally, you would EITHER use your OpenBSD box
to do NAT, OR you would set your OpenBSD box up as a bridge. Let's
take a step back an...

Oct 12, 5:30 pm 2007
Edd Barrett
Re: OpenCon Travel from UK

Ok, so I have found a reasonable flight from easyjet (about B#50 round
trip). Now the price of the hotel is punishing us. It translates to
about B#35 quid a night (for 4 people to stay), if we stay in
conference hotel. This brings the total cost (with some beer money
allowance) to about B#300. Not student prices, you might agree.

What are the other options? Hostels? 3/2 star hotels?

Any ideas?

Thanks

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Best Regards

Edd

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Oct 12, 1:11 pm 2007
Christian Weisgerber
Re: vr driver trouble on Soekris 5501

Find a way to reproduce it with some regularity?

--
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Oct 12, 12:37 pm 2007
Christian Plattner
Re: vr driver trouble on Soekris 5501

>For what it's worth, I experienced the same problem caused by
>attaching and detaching a (short) crossover cable multiple times
>on a vr interface in

The cable used in the situation when things went wrong
was also short, < 1m.

>soekris net5501 running 4.1-stable. As it was on a production
>firewall I didn't troubleshoot much, tcpdump didn't show any incoming
>traffic on that

OK, same phenomenon.

>interface - then I went for a quick reboot that obviously fixed...

Oct 12, 12:15 pm 2007
Reyk Floeter
Supporting newer atheros chipsets...

Hi!

People who had problems with unsupported Atheros devices (single chip
variants found in recent laptops, macbooks, etc.) should get the
latest code from CVS and test it... I was able to make 11b mode work
on at least two different new-age chipsets:

ath0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Atheros AR5212 (IBM MiniPCI)" rev 0x01: apic 1 int 17 (irq 11)
ath0: ARxxxx 10.3 phy 6.1 rf 10.2, WOR2W, address 00:16:cf:ab:4c:97
ath1 at cardbus0 dev 0 function 0 "Atheros Communications, Inc., AR5001-0000-0000, Wire...

Oct 12, 11:55 am 2007
Reyk Floeter
Re: Supporting newer atheros chipsets...

ok, it appears that the offset varies in some cases and there needs to
be some sort of calibration. you can use the attached diff to adjust
the offset to make it work - this is really only for testing and not
for the tree.

for example, here in the melbourne museum i have to adjust the offset
by 5MHz to be able to join the public wireless network:

# ifconfig ath1 chanoff 5 down up
# ifconfig ath1
ath1: flags=8863&lt...

Oct 12, 9:52 pm 2007
Christian Plattner
Re: vr driver trouble on Soekris 5501

Sounds like a good idea. In the future, I will configure them in fixed
mode, it won't hurt.

Even though it may have something to do with the autoselect mode,
the whole story still has a bad smell =) I mean, the problem persisted
even though I several times disconnected the cable, changed the cable,
hooked the Soekris to a Dell 5324 Switch (to a port in autoselect mode)
and nevertheless the interface did not get out of the stalled state
until I did the ifconfig down/up sequence.

Oct 12, 11:53 am 2007
Bibby
Re: Locale

Hi, Toine.

May be you can contact Marc Espie(espie#openbsd.org), he said locale support
was in his todo list.

I need Chinese locale support too. ^_~
--
Michael Bibby, China.

Oct 12, 10:28 am 2007
Christian Plattner
vr driver trouble on Soekris 5501

Hi,

Today something strange happened on one of my Soekris 5501 boxes,
it runs OpenBSD 4.1-stable. The box is connected with a cross-over cable
to another machine via the vr1 interface (the box has 4 vr interfaces).

Problem: After having rebooted the machine at the other end of the cable
multiple times, the Soekris box suddenly stopped receiving packets on
the vr1 interface.

After playing around with ping and tcpdump on both sides I found out
that the vr1 interface allowed me to send packets...

Oct 12, 9:35 am 2007
Constantine A. Murenin
Re: vr driver trouble on Soekris 5501

Not sure if related, but something similar has been fixed in
4.2-current already.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-August/076486.html
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/dev/pci/if_vr.c#rev1.70

I think you should be able to safely apply the 1.69 to 1.70 diff to
your source tree if this is of a concern. The diff is for vr_attach()
only, so if your system is already up and running and you never reboot
it, then you probably shouldn't bother until your next upgrade....

Oct 12, 10:29 am 2007
Christian Plattner
Re: vr driver trouble on Soekris 5501

This was also the first thing that came into my mind, however, I don't
think it is related. VR_STICKHW is only written erroneously during
attach, and since my machine runs now for several weeks without any
problem, I doubt that the observed stall has something to do with this.

Opinions by the vr maintainers? Anything I can do to debug the problem
when it occurs next time?

Oct 12, 10:43 am 2007
Mitja Muženič
Re: vr driver trouble on Soekris 5501

For what it's worth, I experienced the same problem caused by attaching and
detaching a (short) crossover cable multiple times on a vr interface in
soekris net5501 running 4.1-stable. As it was on a production firewall I
didn't troubleshoot much, tcpdump didn't show any incoming traffic on that
interface - then I went for a quick reboot that obviously fixed things. Let
me see if I can replicate it in lab.

Mitja

Oct 12, 12:03 pm 2007
alwin
Re: vr driver trouble on Soekris 5501

for the record, i have a via rhine2 and i never had trouble. (if they are not
related i'm
sorry to bother you, but it might help debugging)

vr0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 "VIA RhineII-2" rev 0x51: irq 10, address
00:40:63:c9:5c:05
this is the one on the via c3 533Mhz board.

alwin

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Oct 12, 10:43 am 2007
Edd Barrett
Re: New alternative identd port question

hmmm. yes....

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Edd

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Oct 12, 9:32 am 2007
Mikel Lindsaar
TLS/FTP via OpenBSD NAT

Hello all,

I have a few OpenBSD servers faithfully running NAT in various spots.

One of these firewalls is doing VERY simple NAT on an interface,
almost a cut and past from the PF pages (only really the IP addresses
got changed).

However, the client wants to be able to connect to an FTP server that
is using TLS.

My first thought of this was "you can't". however, I was quickly
disabused of this idea by connecting to their server using the program
they use (FileZilla) within a Windows XP ins...

Oct 12, 7:46 am 2007
Joachim Schipper
Re: TLS/FTP via OpenBSD NAT

There is, of course, active and passive FTP. In active FTP, the server
connects back to the client; this shouldn't be too difficult to set up,
especially if the FTP server always connects from port 20.

The other way round (passive FTP), you'll either have to integrate your
FTP server with PF or forward a range of ports. vsftpd supports both SSL
and restricting the data ports to a specific range, so that might be a
good way to go about this.

Joachim

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Oct 12, 11:17 am 2007
Boris Goldberg
Re: TLS/FTP via OpenBSD NAT

Hello Mikel,

Friday, October 12, 2007, 6:46:20 AM, you wrote:

ML> ... the client wants to be able to connect to an FTP server that
ML> is using TLS.

ML> My first thought of this was "you can't". however, I was quickly
ML> disabused of this idea by connecting to their server using the program
ML> they use (FileZilla) within a Windows XP instance running inside
ML> Parrallels through a Netlink ADSL modem. That is two sets of
ML> translation happening!

ML> This got me...

Oct 12, 10:17 am 2007
Tim Evers
CARP preemption

Hi,

carp(4) states:

"When the option is enabled and one of the carp enabled physical
interfaces goes down, advskew is changed to 240 on all carp interfaces."

in case preemption is enabled. Can anyone give me a hint why this is
limited to a failure of the physical interface?

I had some floods on my firewall which caused the external interfaces to
drop packets (including the carp packets I assume) which was leading to
a takeover of the external carp interface only.

This of course left t...

Oct 12, 7:44 am 2007
Siju George
4.2 fvwm2 error "`gtkaccelgroup.lo' is not a valid libtool o...

Sent it to ports but got no response :-(
Did I do something really stupid?
Just wondering if anybody here can throw any light on this issue.

Thanks

Siju

Hi,

I tried to install fvwm2 in ports on my

OpenBSD 4.2 GENERIC#1179 amd64 ( from official CD )

I get this error, could somebody please help me out

======================================================
# make install clean
===> fvwm2+fvicons-2.4.19p0 depends on: gtk+-* - not found
===> Verifying install for gtk+-* in x11/...

Oct 12, 6:56 am 2007
ropers
Re: 4.2 fvwm2 error "`gtkaccelgroup.lo' is not a valid libto...

Are you missing GTK+? ( http://www.gtk.org/ )
There's an OpenBSD GTK+ package for 4.1, but since you're running 4.2,
you may have to wait a bit.

That'd just me guessing, I could be wrong.

Oct 12, 6:29 pm 2007
knitti Oct 12, 6:21 am 2007
knitti
Re: all kernels except i386 MP high cpu in interrupt -- was:...

aarrgh. sorry I ment to post this:

Hi,

I was asked off-list to gather some more data, which I now present to anyone
who's interested. Disclaimer: there is no acute problem to fix, but something
is odd.

Summary:
- the location of a tgz which includes an acpidump and some dmesgs is:
<http://stuff.ghweb.de/h8ssli2/stuff.tgz>
- I tested the following kernels on a Supermicro H8SSL-i2 with an Athlon64 X2:
amd64: GENERIC, GENERIC.MP, i386: GENERIC, GENERIC.MP
- all except the i386/MP kern...

Oct 12, 6:22 am 2007
Alexey Vatchenko Oct 12, 3:09 am 2007
Alexey Vatchenko Oct 12, 3:01 am 2007
Alexey Vatchenko
redirect network traffic - netfwd project

Hi!
I wrote a little utility and want to share it with you. It allows to
redirect incoming connections to remote (and also local) host. For
example, it listens for incoming TCP connections, accepts them and
creates connection with remote host.

But it works not only with TCP. One can easily redirect the following:
- TCP
- UDP
- UNIX socket (SOCK_STREAM)
- UNIX socket (SOCK_DGRAM)
- serial port (actually, tty device).

And it doesn't matter what into what you redirect :)

For example, you...

Oct 12, 2:39 am 2007
Karl Sjodahl - dunceor
Re: redirect network traffic - netfwd project

If you want it to be widely used by OpenBSD users just make a port of
it and I bet it will get wider use.

BR
dunceor

Oct 12, 2:51 am 2007
Darrin Chandler
Re: expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

I have a problem with the way this is stated. It's not the focus of
OpenBSD that's causing the problem here. It's the lack of vendors giving
you, the customer, the option to use the hardware with your choice of
software (including OS). You can't buy hardware from a company that
restricts your use, and then blame the makers of software for not
providing full functionality. It's completely backward.

--
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dwchandler@stilyagin.com | ...

Oct 12, 12:36 am 2007
Douglas A. Tutty
Re: expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

The focus of OpenBSD is on security. Its not the problem but it is
incompatible with providing binary blob drivers.

This is in no way a complaint agains OpenBSD. _Somebody_ has to provide
a rock-solid secure OS and that precludes allowing some things that
would otherwise be convenient for some people. I do beleive that the
current short statement in the FAQ should be expanded to address the
issue.

Doug.

Oct 12, 11:44 am 2007
Joachim Schipper
Re: cvs disk space error

Or, if you want an explanation to go along with the answer, this message
can also be caused by the *server* running out of disk space.

Joachim

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Oct 12, 10:20 am 2007
Bob Beck
Re: cvs disk space error

Multiple simultaneous checkouts can fill up the working
space cvs has to play with. it's a sign the server you are using is
busy, and used by many other people.

I suspect you went walking to anoncvs1.ca.openbsd.org, which
gets regularly pummeled by hundreds of people too dumb to use a mirror.

-Bob

Oct 12, 10:34 am 2007
ropers
Re: expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

I have also felt before that that FAQ item could be expanded, so I
wrote an expanded answer and submitted a diff.

However, my answer was not posted online, so either people didn't like
my expanded answer, or my email got lost in the shuffle (or maybe I
made some newbie mistake with diff(1)).

In case people are still interested, here is what I submitted:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jens Ropers <ropers@ropersonline.com>
Date: 3 Oct 2006 16:59
Subject: FAQ diff: OpenBSD...

Oct 12, 12:10 pm 2007
Karsten McMinn
Re: expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

I'm in the same boat as you, however youtube/google video are
the best argument for flash. adobe should thank them, and possibly
myspace for keeping their macromedia pipe dreams alive.

OT noise I know. This thread climaxed on Henning's earlier post.

Oct 12, 3:25 pm 2007
Owain Ainsworth
Re: expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

There are other uses. Like the silly 3D accelerated window managers (as
a cwm user it's obvious I see no need for that). There's also other
uses. For example last year for my final year university project I wrote
a visualisation app. using vtk[1], I wrote it on OpenBSD. Of course I'd
have liked acceleration then, it would have run faster (software GL
isn't very fast).

Then again I'm currently attempting to port the DRM (direct rendering
manager) to OpenBSD, so I'm not whinging about it.

Regard...

Oct 12, 1:00 am 2007
ropers
Re: expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

Do you accept paypal donations at your zerooa at googlemail dot com
email address? I'm broke, not rich, so I can't pay you for your work
hours, but I can send you a tiny sum (a few euros) as a gesture of
encouragement (and cc this to misc in the hope of others doing the
same).

Why am I so hyped? Games, really...
I have some Ubuntu Linux box with a Unichrome Pro graphics chipset. I
discovered http://www.openchrome.org/ , an apparently blob-free FOSS
video driver, and for the first time in my life...

Oct 12, 1:35 pm 2007
Henning Brauer
Re: expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

and that is the right attitude. sit down and send code to change what
you didn't like. instead of sending questionable faq additions.

(now, sending faq additions in general is not a bad idea either, just
this one was)

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Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg & Amsterdam

Oct 12, 3:27 am 2007
Chris Kuethe
Re: OpenBSD replacement for GnuPG

quoth http://www.cypherspace.org/openpgp/

* Tom Zerucha's reference OpenPGP implementation (C code, uses
openSSL library, BSD license -- home site?)
* Adam Back's pgpdsa minimalistic openPGP compatible dsa signature
code (C code, uses openSSL library, public domain code -- home site)
* Adam Back / Henry Hastur's PGP stealth (version 1.x by Henry
Hastur (a nym), version 2.x mods by Adam Back) PGP 2.x steganography
tool for PGP to normalize PGP messages (C code, open source -- home
sit...

Oct 12, 3:27 pm 2007
Gilles Chehade
Re: OpenBSD replacement for GnuPG

Last time i checked (a year ago) bpg was stalling, I had a contact with
Manuel Freire who was swamped, it does not seem that the project has
I have as a (very) low-priority side project to revive bpg as a rewrite
(no ruby and with a different design and API) but what I currently got
is nowhere near usable code ;-)

Gilles

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Oct 12, 6:50 am 2007
Douglas A. Tutty
Re: OpenBSD replacement for GnuPG

I _think_ that you can do all normal functions of PGP/GPG (sign docs,
encrypt, etc) with OpenSSL but I don't think that they will
interoperate. So I suppose it depends on if you need to interoperate
with people who don't use/have OpenSSL.

Doug.

Oct 12, 12:04 pm 2007
ropers
Re: Server just freeze with no reason

It's probably totally unrelated, but I once managed to freeze an
OpenBSD box after attempting to make it automagically back up stuff to
a Windows Server 2003 box. In my case, I had installed sharity-light
(a package allowing you to access CIFS/SMB shares) and I had tried to
tell it to mount the CIFS/SMB share at some mountpoint -- this is when
it froze. It turned out that pf (which I had running on the OpenBSD
box) blocked some port that was needed for proper communication
between sharity-light and...

Oct 12, 11:55 am 2007
Edgars Makņa
Re: Server just freeze with no reason

Hi!

It's a very strange but i have same problem with my HP DL 140. running
i386 OS.
Once per week it just freezes and thats all, nothing in logs. It freezes
also when it's idling.
Strange is taht, i can ping it still, but nothing more, noone service is
responding.

DMESG follows

OpenBSD 4.1 (WWW) #0: Thu Mar 31 04:10:45 EEST 2005
root@www.dtg.lv:/usr/sys/arch/i386/compile/WWW
cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5130 @ 2.00GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,...

Oct 12, 4:49 am 2007
knitti
Re: Server just freeze with no reason

How idle is idling? Have you any processes which can explode in
RAM usage or massive forks? I saw once a system run out of mem,
with no swap space exhibiting the same beviour. I could imagine
(disclaimer: _didn't_ see that one) a system behave similiar after
not being aber to fork anymore.

--knitti

Oct 12, 8:51 am 2007
Raimo Niskanen
Re: : How can i boot a bsd.rd from windows 2000 ?

Can grub actually boot a bsd kernel. I thought it was in a
different binary format than Linux kernels.

Does grub pass kernel arguments to the bsd kernel in the
right way.

Sorry about the doubts, but I have always chain loaded
OpenBSD from grub through the PBR code in biosboot
installed by installboot, which in its turn calls
the boot program that loads the bsd or bsd.rd kernel.

Off-Topic: In that case, can SYSLINUX boot the
bsd kernel from a DOS partition?

--

/ Raimo Niskanen, Er...

Oct 12, 3:57 am 2007
ropers
Re: Transparent Firewall with NAT

Huh? If you understand NAT very well, then how is that unfortunate?
I'm not trying to be a prick here; I honestly have trouble

Is this what you are trying to say?:
"It's true that it would not seem to make sense to do Network Address
Translation between machines that are on the same physical network
segment, but this is what I want."

I'll give you an example of what I understood. Please tell me if this
describes what you are trying to do:

- You have multiple hosts on a single physical networ...

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