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Cc: <bouyer@...>, <andrew@...>, <andy.shevchenko@...>, <tech-kern@...>
Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 6:31 am

> > Be able to run a netbsd-4 or netbsd-3 userland on a netbsd-5 kernel.

That's not the only serious problem such a change would introduce.

As far as I understand it, such a change would *in practice* force a
synchronized upgrade of both kernel and user-land (mostly due to
"dragged-along dependencies"), as exemplified by a transition from 4.0
to -current, to preserve full functionality.  This makes it cumbersome
to say the least to back down of such an upgrade, if one were so
inclined, something we've supported in the past by having the ABI
contract between user-land and the kernel.  I think "operator-friendly
testing of new kernels" is a feature which is important to preserve.

Regards,

- Håvard
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revivesa status, Bill Stouder-Studenmund, (Tue Jul 1, 7:29 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Bill Stouder-Studenmund, (Thu Jul 10, 2:31 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, David Holland, (Sat Jul 12, 3:28 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Andy Shevchenko, (Thu Jul 10, 3:28 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Bill Stouder-Studenmund, (Thu Jul 10, 2:39 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Andrew Doran, (Fri Jul 11, 8:47 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Manuel Bouyer, (Fri Jul 11, 3:30 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Jason Thorpe, (Wed Jul 23, 6:39 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Havard Eidnes, (Thu Jul 24, 6:31 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Andrew Doran, (Fri Jul 25, 3:19 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Jason Thorpe, (Thu Jul 24, 12:19 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Havard Eidnes, (Thu Jul 24, 5:09 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, David Holland, (Fri Jul 25, 11:45 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Antti Kantee, (Thu Jul 24, 12:51 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Jason Thorpe, (Thu Jul 24, 1:28 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, SODA Noriyuki, (Fri Jul 25, 1:54 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Jason Thorpe, (Mon Jul 28, 11:35 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, SODA Noriyuki, (Mon Jul 28, 11:58 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Andrew Doran, (Fri Jul 25, 3:40 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, SODA Noriyuki, (Fri Jul 25, 4:37 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Jason Thorpe, (Mon Jul 28, 11:30 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Eric Haszlakiewicz, (Sat Jul 12, 2:38 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Tonnerre Lombard, (Sun Jul 13, 4:03 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Thor Lancelot Simon, (Fri Jul 11, 4:28 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Andrew Doran, (Thu Jul 24, 4:35 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Jason Thorpe, (Wed Jul 23, 6:41 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Mindaugas Rasiukevicius, (Sat Jul 12, 6:41 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Bill Stouder-Studenmund, (Sun Jul 13, 4:12 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Bill Stouder-Studenmund, (Fri Jul 11, 2:13 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Mindaugas Rasiukevicius, (Fri Jul 11, 12:18 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Gary Thorpe, (Sat Jul 12, 1:07 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Andrew Doran, (Thu Jul 24, 4:26 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Jason Thorpe, (Wed Jul 23, 6:49 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Mindaugas Rasiukevicius, (Thu Jul 24, 6:07 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Bill Stouder-Studenmund, (Thu Jul 24, 12:53 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Mindaugas Rasiukevicius, (Thu Jul 24, 5:57 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Alan Barrett, (Fri Jul 25, 12:10 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Havard Eidnes, (Fri Jul 25, 8:46 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Dieter Baron, (Fri Jul 25, 9:14 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Bill Stouder-Studenmund, (Fri Jul 25, 12:37 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Matthew Mondor, (Mon Jul 28, 2:39 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, SODA Noriyuki, (Wed Jul 23, 9:49 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, SODA Noriyuki, (Wed Jul 23, 9:52 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Jason Thorpe, (Thu Jul 24, 12:25 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, SODA Noriyuki, (Thu Jul 24, 1:39 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Bill Stouder-Studenmund, (Fri Jul 11, 3:13 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, David Brownlee, (Fri Jul 11, 9:04 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Aleksey Cheusov, (Mon Jul 14, 4:49 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Thor Lancelot Simon, (Mon Jul 14, 7:29 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Andrew Doran, (Fri Jul 11, 7:25 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Bill Stouder-Studenmund, (Fri Jul 11, 9:24 pm)
re: revivesa status 2008/07/09 , matthew green, (Fri Jul 11, 7:40 pm)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Andrew Doran, (Thu Jul 24, 4:29 am)
Re: revivesa status 2008/07/09, Jason Thorpe, (Thu Jul 24, 12:24 pm)
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