Re: funlink() for fun!

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From: Greg A. Woods
Date: Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:57 am

[ On Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 02:11:14 (-0700), Greywolf wrote: ]

How is it that suddenly you have absolutely no imagination at all?

File descriptors are associated with files.

Filenames are associated with files.

If you can't make the connection implied by these two axioms then I
would humbly suggest you're not seeing the whole picture with even
remotely enough clarity and understanding to make this discussion useful
or interesting.


No, I absolutely do not.  If you think this then by now I can only
conclude that you have not read all of what I wrote carefully enough.

However I do know that for the case where a file has a link count of
exactly one then there is guaranteed to be a one-to-one relationship
with one particular pathname in the directory tree of the filesystem
that file belongs to.  Because of this guaranteed truth I know that it
is possible, if somewhat costly, to implement funlink() as I've
described it such that it could be safe and useful to use in the vast
majority of situations where it might make sense to be used.  I also
know that one could spread the cost around a little bit and further
increase the reliability of funlink(), as I've described it.

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Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Daniel Brewer, (Mon Jul 7, 12:45 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, der Mouse, (Mon Jul 7, 12:53 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Chuck Silvers, (Mon Jul 7, 9:33 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Chuck Silvers, (Mon Jul 7, 9:39 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Mon Jul 7, 11:45 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, David Laight, (Mon Jul 7, 1:58 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Jochen Kunz, (Tue Jul 8, 1:16 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, David Laight, (Tue Jul 8, 5:17 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Matthias Buelow, (Tue Jul 8, 11:18 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Tue Jul 8, 1:57 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Matthias Buelow, (Tue Jul 8, 3:32 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Tue Jul 8, 6:59 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Matthias Buelow, (Tue Jul 8, 7:54 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, der Mouse, (Tue Jul 8, 8:09 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Tue Jul 8, 8:44 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Wed Jul 9, 12:01 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, der Mouse, (Wed Jul 9, 12:11 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Jul 9, 1:04 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Jul 9, 1:07 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Wed Jul 9, 1:36 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Wed Jul 9, 9:26 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Jul 9, 9:43 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Matt Thomas, (Wed Jul 9, 11:13 am)
POSIX shm_open() vs. mmap(MAP_ANON|MAP_SHARED)...., Greg A. Woods, (Wed Jul 9, 11:17 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Matthias Buelow, (Wed Jul 9, 11:34 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Matthias Buelow, (Wed Jul 9, 11:43 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, der Mouse, (Wed Jul 9, 12:21 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Wed Jul 9, 12:22 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Wed Jul 9, 12:56 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, der Mouse, (Wed Jul 9, 1:05 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Wed Jul 9, 1:40 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, der Mouse, (Wed Jul 9, 1:50 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greywolf, (Wed Jul 9, 2:06 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Jul 9, 5:14 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Matthias Buelow, (Wed Jul 9, 6:32 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Kamal R Prasad, (Wed Jul 9, 11:11 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Thu Jul 10, 12:06 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Kamal R Prasad, (Thu Jul 10, 12:23 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Thu Jul 10, 9:35 am)
Re: POSIX shm_open() vs. mmap(MAP_ANON|MAP_SHARED)...., Greg A. Woods, (Thu Jul 10, 9:37 am)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Greg A. Woods, (Thu Jul 10, 9:40 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Thu Jul 10, 2:52 pm)
Re: fsync performance hit on 1.6.1, Matthew Mondor, (Thu Jul 10, 3:08 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Thu Jul 10, 3:34 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Thu Jul 10, 3:51 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Thu Jul 10, 4:56 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Thu Jul 10, 5:31 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, der Mouse, (Thu Jul 10, 8:41 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Thu Jul 10, 11:38 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, der Mouse, (Thu Jul 10, 11:43 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Fri Jul 11, 12:31 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, der Mouse, (Fri Jul 11, 1:12 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, David Laight, (Fri Jul 11, 2:36 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Roland Dowdeswell, (Fri Jul 11, 8:03 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Fri Jul 11, 10:47 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Fri Jul 11, 10:58 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Fri Jul 11, 1:42 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, der Mouse, (Fri Jul 11, 1:48 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Fri Jul 11, 4:02 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Fri Jul 11, 4:20 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Matthias Buelow, (Fri Jul 11, 6:38 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Matthias Buelow, (Fri Jul 11, 6:53 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Fri Jul 11, 7:20 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Sat Jul 12, 1:11 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Sat Jul 12, 1:47 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Sat Jul 12, 1:54 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, der Mouse, (Sat Jul 12, 1:57 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Sat Jul 12, 2:11 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, joerg, (Sat Jul 12, 4:07 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Ignatios Souvatzis, (Sat Jul 12, 6:18 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Sat Jul 12, 10:48 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Sat Jul 12, 10:57 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Matthias Buelow, (Sun Jul 13, 1:25 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Sun Jul 13, 3:58 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Matthias Buelow, (Mon Jul 14, 7:19 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Mon Jul 14, 9:08 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Mon Jul 14, 9:24 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Matthias Buelow, (Mon Jul 14, 9:34 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Mon Jul 14, 10:44 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Ben Harris, (Mon Jul 14, 11:06 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Mon Jul 14, 11:20 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Mon Jul 14, 11:30 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Matthias Buelow, (Mon Jul 14, 12:46 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Matthias Buelow, (Mon Jul 14, 1:51 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Mon Jul 14, 1:58 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Mon Jul 14, 2:43 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, der Mouse, (Mon Jul 14, 3:00 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greywolf, (Mon Jul 14, 4:05 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, der Mouse, (Mon Jul 14, 4:56 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Mon Jul 14, 5:07 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, der Mouse, (Mon Jul 14, 5:42 pm)
re: funlink() for fun!, matthew green, (Mon Jul 14, 8:55 pm)
re: funlink() for fun!, Bill Studenmund, (Tue Jul 15, 10:31 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Bill Studenmund, (Tue Jul 15, 10:34 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Bill Studenmund, (Tue Jul 15, 11:47 am)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Bill Studenmund, (Tue Jul 15, 12:00 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, ww, (Tue Jul 15, 12:09 pm)
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Re: funlink() for fun!, der Mouse, (Tue Jul 15, 12:49 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Ignatios Souvatzis, (Tue Jul 15, 1:02 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Bill Studenmund, (Tue Jul 15, 1:28 pm)
Re: funlink() for fun!, Greg A. Woods, (Wed Jul 16, 12:05 am)