Re: UDP path MTU discovery

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From: Glen Turner
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 4:57 pm

On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 10:41 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:


It is trivial from the applications point of view to let the
kernel find the UDP Path MTU. We just need more information
from the kernel as to when it would like to see those packets
(ie, for performance we'd like to feed in the packet to re-send
as soon as the ICMP Packet Too Big arrives for the previous
packet).


There's no need to make that assumption.  We'd very much like
transactional UDP protocols to work well in advanced networks.
The other choices -- holding down millions of TCP sockets,
or using new protocols (and there are competing proposals) --
don't exactly fill our operations teams with confidence.

We'd very much like to use UDP were we can and something else
where we must.


Yeah. The sockets API for IPv6 required an additional feature that
the IETF did not foresee.

-- 
 Glen Turner
 www.gdt.id.au/~gdt

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Messages in current thread:
UDP path MTU discovery, Glen Turner, (Thu Mar 25, 5:02 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Rick Jones, (Thu Mar 25, 5:53 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, David Miller, (Thu Mar 25, 8:24 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, David Miller, (Thu Mar 25, 8:26 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Rick Jones, (Fri Mar 26, 10:48 am)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Sun Mar 28, 1:41 am)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Sun Mar 28, 1:50 am)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Rick Jones, (Mon Mar 29, 10:01 am)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 29, 1:14 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Rick Jones, (Mon Mar 29, 1:25 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Edgar E. Iglesias, (Mon Mar 29, 1:50 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Rick Jones, (Mon Mar 29, 2:01 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Eric Dumazet, (Mon Mar 29, 2:29 pm)
RE: UDP path MTU discovery, Templin, Fred L, (Mon Mar 29, 4:38 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 29, 10:20 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Eric Dumazet, (Mon Mar 29, 11:06 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Edgar E. Iglesias, (Mon Mar 29, 11:16 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 29, 11:16 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery II, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 29, 11:17 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Mon Mar 29, 11:19 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Edgar E. Iglesias, (Tue Mar 30, 1:20 am)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Tue Mar 30, 7:12 am)
RE: UDP path MTU discovery, Templin, Fred L, (Tue Mar 30, 8:58 am)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Tue Mar 30, 9:06 am)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Edgar E. Iglesias, (Tue Mar 30, 3:04 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Glen Turner, (Wed Mar 31, 4:42 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Glen Turner, (Wed Mar 31, 4:43 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Hagen Paul Pfeifer, (Wed Mar 31, 4:51 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Glen Turner, (Wed Mar 31, 4:57 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Rick Jones, (Wed Mar 31, 5:06 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Wed Mar 31, 5:55 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Wed Mar 31, 5:57 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Glen Turner, (Thu Apr 1, 10:41 pm)
Re: UDP path MTU discovery, Andi Kleen, (Sun Apr 4, 3:25 am)