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applies to v2.6.29 (will port to git HEAD soon) FIRST OFF: Let me state that this is not a KVM or networking specific technology. Virtual-Bus is a mechanism for defining and deploying software “devices” directly in a Linux kernel. The example use-case we have provided supports a “virtual-ethernet” device being utilized in a KVM guest environment, so comparisons to virtio-net will be natural. However, please note that this is but one use-case, of many we have planned for the future (such as userspace bypass and RT guest support). The goal for right now is to describe what a virual-bus is and why we believe it is useful. We are intent to get this core technology merged, even if the networking components are not accepted as is. It should be noted that, in many ways, virtio could be considered complimentary to the technology. We could in fact, have implemented the virtual-ethernet using a virtio-ring, but it would have required ABI changes that we didn't want to yet propose without having the concept in general vetted and accepted by the community. To cut to the chase, we recently measured our virtual-ethernet on v2.6.29 on two 8-core x86_64 boxes with Chelsio T3 10GE connected back to back via cross over. We measured bare-metal performance, as well as a kvm guest (running the same kernel) connected to the T3 via a linux-bridge+tap configuration with a 1500 MTU. The results are as follows: Bare metal: tput = 4078Mb/s, round-trip = 25593pps (39us rtt) Virtio-net: tput = 4003Mb/s, round-trip = 320pps (3125us rtt) Venet: tput = 4050Mb/s, round-trip = 15255 (65us rtt) As you can see, all three technologies can achieve (MTU limited) line-rate, but the virtio-net solution is severely limited on the latency front (by a factor of 48:1) Note that the 320pps is technically artificially low in virtio-net, caused by a a known design limitation to use a timer for tx-mitigation. However, note that even when removing the timer from the path the best we could achieve ...
This interface provides a bidirectional shared-memory based signaling mechanism. It can be used by any entities which desire efficient communication via shared memory. The implementation details of the signaling are abstracted so that they may transcend a wide variety of locale boundaries (e.g. userspace/kernel, guest/host, etc). The shm_signal mechanism supports event masking as well as spurious event delivery mitigation. Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> --- include/linux/shm_signal.h | 188 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ lib/Kconfig | 10 ++ lib/Makefile | 1 lib/shm_signal.c | 186 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 4 files changed, 385 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 include/linux/shm_signal.h create mode 100644 lib/shm_signal.c diff --git a/include/linux/shm_signal.h b/include/linux/shm_signal.h new file mode 100644 index 0000000..a65e54e --- /dev/null +++ b/include/linux/shm_signal.h @@ -0,0 +1,188 @@ +/* + * Copyright 2009 Novell. All Rights Reserved. + * + * Author: + * Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> + * + * This file is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify + * it under the terms of version 2 of the GNU General Public License + * as published by the Free Software Foundation. + * + * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, + * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of + * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the + * GNU General Public License for more details. + * + * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License + * along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, + * Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA. + */ + +#ifndef _LINUX_SHM_SIGNAL_H +#define _LINUX_SHM_SIGNAL_H + +#include <asm/types.h> + +/* + *--------- + * The following structures represent data that is shared ...
Similarly, this should be padded to 0 (mod 8). Instead of versions, I prefer feature flags which can be independently This means "->inject() has been called from the other side"? (reading below I see this is so. not used to reading well commented When you overlay a ring on top of this, won't the ring indexes convey the same information as ->dirty? -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
Yeah, good idea. What is the official way to do this these days? Are Totally agreed. If you look, most of the ABI has a type of "NEGCAP" (negotiate capabilities) feature. The version number is a contingency plan in case I still have to break it for whatever reason. I will always opt for the feature bits over bumping the version when its This is still somewhat of a immature part of the design. Its supposed to be used so that by default, its a panic. But on the host side, we can do something like inject a machine-check. That way malicious/broken guests cannot (should not? ;) be able to take down the host. Note today I do not map this to anything other than the default panic, so this needs some love. But given the asynchronous nature of the fault, I want to be sure we have decent accounting to avoid bug reports like "silent MCE kills the guest" ;) At least this way, we can log the fault string somewhere to I agree that the information may be redundant with components of the broader shm state. However, we need this state at this level of scope in order to function optimally, so I dont think its a huge deal to have this here as well. Afterall, the shm_signal library can only assess its internal state. We would have to teach it how to glean the broader state through some mechanism otherwise (callback, perhaps), but I don't think its worth it.
I see. This raises a point I've been thinking of - the symmetrical nature of the API vs the assymetrical nature of guest/host or user/kernel interfaces. This is most pronounced in ->inject(); in the host->guest direction this is async (host can continue processing while the guest is handling the interrupt), whereas in the guest->host direction it is synchronous (the guest is blocked while the host is processing the call, unless the host explicitly hands off work to a different thread). -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
Oh, duh. Dumb question. I was getting confused with "pack", not pad. := Note that this is exactly what I do (though it is device specific).=20 venet-tap has a ioq_notifier registered on its "rx" ring (which is the tx-ring for the guest) that simply calls ioq_notify_disable() (which calls shm_signal_disable() under the covers) and it wakes its rx-thread. This all happens in the context of the hypercall, which then
I think this is suboptimal. The ring is likely to be cache hot on the current cpu, waking a thread will introduce scheduling latency + IPI +cache-to-cache transfers. On a benchmark setup, host resources are likely to exceed guest requirements, so you can throw cpu at the problem and no one notices. But I think the bits/cycle figure will decrease, even if bits/sec increases. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
Heh, yes I know this is your (well documented) position, but I respectfully disagree. :) CPUs are not getting much faster, but they are rapidly getting more cores. If we want to continue to make software run increasingly faster, we need to actually use those cores IMO. Generally this means split workloads up into as many threads as possible as long as you can keep This part is a valid criticism, though note that Linux is very adept at scheduling so we are talking mere ns/us range here, which is dwarfed by the latency of something like your typical IO device (e.g. 36us for a rtt packet on 10GE baremetal, etc). The benefit, of course, is the potential for increased parallelism which I have plenty of data to show we are very much taking advantage of here (I can saturate two cores almost completely according to LTT traces, one doing vcpu work, and the This one I take exception to. While it is perfectly true that splitting the work between two cores has a greater cache impact than staying on one, you cannot look at this one metric alone and say "this is bad".=20 Its also a function of how efficiently the second (or more) cores are utilized. There will be a point in the curve where the cost of cache coherence will become marginalized by the efficiency added by the extra compute power. Some workloads will invariably be on the bad end of that curve, and therefore doing the work on one core is better. However, we cant ignore that there will others that are on the good end of this spectrum either. Otherwise, we risk performance stagnation on our effectively uniprocessor box ;). In addition, the task-scheduler will attempt to co-locate tasks that are sharing data according to a best-fit within the cache hierarchy. Therefore, we will still be sharing as much as possible (perhaps only L2, L3, or a local NUMA domain, but this is still better than nothing) The way I have been thinking about these issues is something I have been calling "soft-asics". In the early days, we had ...
We expect to have various types of connection-clients (e.g. userspace, kvm, etc), each of which is likely to have common access patterns and marshalling duties. Therefore we create a "client" API to simplify client development by helping with mundane tasks such as handle-2-pointer translation, etc. Special thanks to Pat Mullaney for suggesting the optimization to pass a cookie object down during DEVICESHM operations to save lookup overhead on the event channel. Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> --- include/linux/vbus_client.h | 115 +++++++++ kernel/vbus/Makefile | 2 kernel/vbus/client.c | 527 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 3 files changed, 643 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) create mode 100644 include/linux/vbus_client.h create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/client.c diff --git a/include/linux/vbus_client.h b/include/linux/vbus_client.h new file mode 100644 index 0000000..62dab78 --- /dev/null +++ b/include/linux/vbus_client.h @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +/* + * Copyright 2009 Novell. All Rights Reserved. + * + * Virtual-Bus - Client interface + * + * We expect to have various types of connection-clients (e.g. userspace, + * kvm, etc). Each client will be connecting from some environment outside + * of the kernel, and therefore will not have direct access to the API as + * presented in ./linux/vbus.h. There will undoubtedly be some parameter + * marshalling that must occur, as well as common patterns for the handling + * of those marshalled parameters (e.g. translating a handle into a pointer, + * etc). + * + * Therefore this "client" API is provided to simplify the development + * of any clients. Of course, a client is free to bypass this API entirely + * and communicate with the direct VBUS API if desired. + * + * Author: + * Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> + * + * This file is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify + * it under the terms of version 2 of the GNU General Public License + * ...
Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
include/linux/venet.h | 47 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 files changed, 47 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 include/linux/venet.h
diff --git a/include/linux/venet.h b/include/linux/venet.h
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..ef6b199
--- /dev/null
+++ b/include/linux/venet.h
@@ -0,0 +1,47 @@
+/*
+ * Copyright 2008 Novell. All Rights Reserved.
+ *
+ * Virtual-Ethernet adapter
+ *
+ * Author:
+ * Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
+ *
+ * This file is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
+ * it under the terms of version 2 of the GNU General Public License
+ * as published by the Free Software Foundation.
+ *
+ * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+ * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+ * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
+ * GNU General Public License for more details.
+ *
+ * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+ * along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation,
+ * Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA.
+ */
+
+#ifndef _LINUX_VENET_H
+#define _LINUX_VENET_H
+
+#define VENET_VERSION 1
+
+#define VENET_TYPE "virtual-ethernet"
+
+#define VENET_QUEUE_RX 0
+#define VENET_QUEUE_TX 1
+
+struct venet_capabilities {
+ __u32 gid;
+ __u32 bits;
+};
+
+/* CAPABILITIES-GROUP 0 */
+/* #define VENET_CAP_FOO 0 (No capabilities defined yet, for now) */
+
+#define VENET_FUNC_LINKUP 0
+#define VENET_FUNC_LINKDOWN 1
+#define VENET_FUNC_MACQUERY 2
+#define VENET_FUNC_NEGCAP 3 /* negotiate capabilities */
+#define VENET_FUNC_FLUSHRX 4
+
+#endif /* _LINUX_VENET_H */
--
We can map these over VBUS shared memory (or really any shared-memory architecture if it supports shm-signals) to allow asynchronous communication between two end-points. Memory is synchronized using pure barriers (i.e. lockless), so IOQs are friendly in many contexts, even if the memory is remote. Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> --- include/linux/ioq.h | 410 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ lib/Kconfig | 12 + lib/Makefile | 1 lib/ioq.c | 298 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 4 files changed, 721 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 include/linux/ioq.h create mode 100644 lib/ioq.c diff --git a/include/linux/ioq.h b/include/linux/ioq.h new file mode 100644 index 0000000..d450d9a --- /dev/null +++ b/include/linux/ioq.h @@ -0,0 +1,410 @@ +/* + * Copyright 2009 Novell. All Rights Reserved. + * + * IOQ is a generic shared-memory, lockless queue mechanism. It can be used + * in a variety of ways, though its intended purpose is to become the + * asynchronous communication path for virtual-bus drivers. + * + * The following are a list of key design points: + * + * #) All shared-memory is always allocated on explicitly one side of the + * link. This typically would be the guest side in a VM/VMM scenario. + * #) Each IOQ has the concept of "north" and "south" locales, where + * north denotes the memory-owner side (e.g. guest). + * #) An IOQ is manipulated using an iterator idiom. + * #) Provides a bi-directional signaling/notification infrastructure on + * a per-queue basis, which includes an event mitigation strategy + * to reduce boundary switching. + * #) The signaling path is abstracted so that various technologies and + * topologies can define their own specific implementation while sharing + * the basic structures and code. + * + * Author: + * Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> + * + * This file is free software; you can redistribute it ...
See Documentation/vbus.txt for details Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> --- Documentation/vbus.txt | 386 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ arch/x86/Kconfig | 2 fs/proc/base.c | 96 +++++++ include/linux/sched.h | 4 include/linux/vbus.h | 147 +++++++++++ include/linux/vbus_device.h | 416 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ kernel/Makefile | 1 kernel/exit.c | 2 kernel/fork.c | 2 kernel/vbus/Kconfig | 14 + kernel/vbus/Makefile | 1 kernel/vbus/attribute.c | 52 ++++ kernel/vbus/config.c | 275 +++++++++++++++++++++ kernel/vbus/core.c | 567 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ kernel/vbus/devclass.c | 124 +++++++++ kernel/vbus/map.c | 72 +++++ kernel/vbus/map.h | 41 +++ kernel/vbus/vbus.h | 116 +++++++++ 18 files changed, 2318 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 Documentation/vbus.txt create mode 100644 include/linux/vbus.h create mode 100644 include/linux/vbus_device.h create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/Kconfig create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/Makefile create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/attribute.c create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/config.c create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/core.c create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/devclass.c create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/map.c create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/map.h create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/vbus.h diff --git a/Documentation/vbus.txt b/Documentation/vbus.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..e8a05da --- /dev/null +++ b/Documentation/vbus.txt @@ -0,0 +1,386 @@ + +Virtual-Bus: +====================== +Author: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> + + + + +What is it? +-------------------- + +Virtual-Bus is a kernel based IO resource container technology. It is modeled +on a concept similar to the Linux Device-Model (LDM), where we have buses, +devices, and drivers as the primary actors. ...
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 14:42 -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote: This is kind of patronising; why don't you simply lay out how things How about exposing a subdir for each device class under /config/vbus/devices/ and allowing device creation only within those? Two-stage construction is a pain for both users and implementors. [...] It seems to me that your "device-classes" correspond to drivers and "interfaces" correspond to device classes in the LDM. To avoid confusion, I think the vbus terminology should be made consistent with LDM. And certainly these should not both be called simply "type" in the configfs/sysfs interface. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings, Senior Software Engineer, Solarflare Communications Not speaking for my employer; that's the marketing department's job. They asked us to note that Solarflare product names are trademarked. --
Hi Ben Ya, point taken. I think that was written really to myself, because my first design *had* the device as a subordinate object. Then I realized later that I didn't like that design :) I am not sure I follow. It sounds like you are suggesting exactly what I think I worded this awkwardly. A device-class creates a device-instance. A device-instance registers one or more interfaces.=20 There are device types (of which I would classify both the device-class and its instantiated device object as the same "type"), and there are interface types. The interface types may overlap across different device types, as demonstrated below. I will update the doc to be more I don't think that is quite right, but I might be missing your point.=20 All of these objects exist on the "backend", of which there isnt a specific precedent with LDM to express. Normally in LDM, you would have some kind of physical device object in the hardware (say a SATA disk), and an LDM "block device" that represents it in software. So we call the LDM model for that disk a "device" but really its like a proxy or a software representative of the actual device itself. And I am not knocking this designation, as I think it makes a lot of sense. However, what I will point out is that what we are creating here in vbus is more akin to the SATA disk itself, not the LDM "block device" representation of the device. There was no really great existing way to express this type of object, which is why I had to create a new namespace in sysfs. To dig down into this a little further, the device and interface are inextricably linked in a relationship very close to this "physical device" concept. Therefore the "driver" portion of LDM that you referenced w.r.t. the device-class doesnt even enter the picture here (that would actually be up in the guest or userspace, actually.=20 Discussed below). As an example, consider a e1000 network card. The PCI-ID and REV for the e1000 card and the associated ABI are like ...
This will generally be used for hypervisors to publish any host-side
virtual devices up to a guest. The guest will have the opportunity
to consume any devices present on the vbus-proxy as if they were
platform devices, similar to existing buses like PCI.
Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
include/linux/vbus_driver.h | 73 +++++++++++++++++++++
kernel/vbus/Kconfig | 9 +++
kernel/vbus/Makefile | 4 +
kernel/vbus/proxy.c | 152 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
4 files changed, 238 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 include/linux/vbus_driver.h
create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/proxy.c
diff --git a/include/linux/vbus_driver.h b/include/linux/vbus_driver.h
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..c53e13f
--- /dev/null
+++ b/include/linux/vbus_driver.h
@@ -0,0 +1,73 @@
+/*
+ * Copyright 2009 Novell. All Rights Reserved.
+ *
+ * Mediates access to a host VBUS from a guest kernel by providing a
+ * global view of all VBUS devices
+ *
+ * Author:
+ * Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
+ *
+ * This file is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
+ * it under the terms of version 2 of the GNU General Public License
+ * as published by the Free Software Foundation.
+ *
+ * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+ * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+ * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
+ * GNU General Public License for more details.
+ *
+ * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+ * along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation,
+ * Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA.
+ */
+
+#ifndef _LINUX_VBUS_DRIVER_H
+#define _LINUX_VBUS_DRIVER_H
+
+#include <linux/device.h>
+#include <linux/shm_signal.h>
+
+struct vbus_device_proxy;
+struct vbus_driver;
+
+struct vbus_device_proxy_ops {
+ int (*open)(struct ...This adds a driver to interface between the host VBUS support, and the
guest-vbus bus model.
Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
arch/x86/Kconfig | 9 +
drivers/Makefile | 1
drivers/vbus/proxy/Makefile | 2
drivers/vbus/proxy/kvm.c | 726 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
4 files changed, 738 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 drivers/vbus/proxy/Makefile
create mode 100644 drivers/vbus/proxy/kvm.c
diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
index 91fefd5..8661495 100644
--- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
@@ -451,6 +451,15 @@ config KVM_GUEST_DYNIRQ
depends on KVM_GUEST
default y
+config KVM_GUEST_VBUS
+ tristate "KVM virtual-bus (VBUS) guest-side support"
+ depends on KVM_GUEST
+ select VBUS_DRIVERS
+ default y
+ ---help---
+ This option enables guest-side support for accessing virtual-bus
+ devices.
+
source "arch/x86/lguest/Kconfig"
config PARAVIRT
diff --git a/drivers/Makefile b/drivers/Makefile
index 98fab51..4f2cb93 100644
--- a/drivers/Makefile
+++ b/drivers/Makefile
@@ -107,3 +107,4 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_VIRTIO) += virtio/
obj-$(CONFIG_STAGING) += staging/
obj-y += platform/
obj-$(CONFIG_VBUS_DEVICES) += vbus/devices/
+obj-$(CONFIG_VBUS_DRIVERS) += vbus/proxy/
diff --git a/drivers/vbus/proxy/Makefile b/drivers/vbus/proxy/Makefile
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..c18d58d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/drivers/vbus/proxy/Makefile
@@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
+kvm-guest-vbus-objs += kvm.o
+obj-$(CONFIG_KVM_GUEST_VBUS) += kvm-guest-vbus.o
diff --git a/drivers/vbus/proxy/kvm.c b/drivers/vbus/proxy/kvm.c
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..82e28b4
--- /dev/null
+++ b/drivers/vbus/proxy/kvm.c
@@ -0,0 +1,726 @@
+/*
+ * Copyright (C) 2009 Novell. All Rights Reserved.
+ *
+ * Author:
+ * Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
+ *
+ * This file is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
+ * ...The ioapic code currently privately manages the mapping between irq
and vector. This results in some layering violations as the support
for certain MSI operations need this info. As a result, the MSI
code itself was moved to the ioapic module. This is not really
optimal.
We now have another need to gain access to the vector assignment on
x86. However, rather than put yet another inappropriately placed
function into io-apic, lets create a way to export this simple data
and therefore allow the logic to sit closer to where it belongs.
Ideally we should abstract the entire notion of irq->vector management
out of io-apic, but we leave that as an excercise for another day.
Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
arch/x86/include/asm/irq.h | 6 ++++++
arch/x86/kernel/io_apic.c | 25 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/irq.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/irq.h
index 592688e..b1726d8 100644
--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/irq.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/irq.h
@@ -40,6 +40,12 @@ extern unsigned int do_IRQ(struct pt_regs *regs);
extern void init_IRQ(void);
extern void native_init_IRQ(void);
+#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
+extern int set_irq_affinity(int irq, cpumask_t mask);
+#endif
+
+extern int irq_to_vector(int irq);
+
/* Interrupt vector management */
extern DECLARE_BITMAP(used_vectors, NR_VECTORS);
extern int vector_used_by_percpu_irq(unsigned int vector);
diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/io_apic.c b/arch/x86/kernel/io_apic.c
index bc7ac4d..86a2c36 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kernel/io_apic.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kernel/io_apic.c
@@ -614,6 +614,14 @@ set_ioapic_affinity_irq(unsigned int irq, const struct cpumask *mask)
set_ioapic_affinity_irq_desc(desc, mask);
}
+
+int set_irq_affinity(int irq, cpumask_t mask)
+{
+ set_ioapic_affinity_irq(irq, &mask);
+
+ return 0;
+}
+
#endif /* CONFIG_SMP */
/*
@@ -3249,6 +3257,23 @@ void destroy_irq(unsigned int irq)
...On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:43:55 -0400 This appears to have been muddled in with the vnet patches ? --
Its needed for the kvm-connector patches later in the series, so it was included intentionally. On that topic, I probably should have had a TOC of some kind. Hmm..let me hack one together now: Patch 1: Stand-alone "shared-memory signal" construct, used by various components in vbus/venet Patches 2-5: Basic vbus infrastructure Patches 6-7: IOQ construct, similar to virtio-ring. Used to overlay ring-like behavior over the shm interface in vbus Patches 8-12: virtual-ethernet front and backends Patch 13: io-apic work to expose the irq-vector in x86, needed for dynirq support Patches 14-16: KVM host side support Patch 17: KVM guest side support Sorry for the confusion :( Regards, -Greg
This module is similar in concept to a "tuntap". A tuntap module provides a netif() interface on one side, and a char-dev interface on the other. Packets that ingress on one interface, egress on the other (and vice versa). This module offers a similar concept, except that it substitues the char-dev for a VBUS/IOQ interface. This allows a VBUS compatible entity (e.g. userspace or a guest) to directly inject and receive packets from the host/kernel stack. Thanks to Pat Mullaney for contributing the maxcount modification Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> --- drivers/Makefile | 1 drivers/vbus/devices/Kconfig | 17 drivers/vbus/devices/Makefile | 1 drivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c | 1365 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ kernel/vbus/Kconfig | 13 5 files changed, 1397 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 drivers/vbus/devices/Kconfig create mode 100644 drivers/vbus/devices/Makefile create mode 100644 drivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c diff --git a/drivers/Makefile b/drivers/Makefile index c1bf417..98fab51 100644 --- a/drivers/Makefile +++ b/drivers/Makefile @@ -106,3 +106,4 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_SSB) += ssb/ obj-$(CONFIG_VIRTIO) += virtio/ obj-$(CONFIG_STAGING) += staging/ obj-y += platform/ +obj-$(CONFIG_VBUS_DEVICES) += vbus/devices/ diff --git a/drivers/vbus/devices/Kconfig b/drivers/vbus/devices/Kconfig new file mode 100644 index 0000000..64e4731 --- /dev/null +++ b/drivers/vbus/devices/Kconfig @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +# +# Virtual-Bus (VBus) configuration +# + +config VBUS_VENETTAP + tristate "Virtual-Bus Ethernet Tap Device" + depends on VBUS_DEVICES + default n + help + Provides a virtual ethernet adapter to a vbus, which in turn + manifests itself as a standard netif based adapter to the + kernel. It can be used similarly to a "tuntap" device, + except that the char-dev transport is replaced with a vbus/ioq + ...
Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
drivers/net/vbus-enet.c | 249 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
include/linux/venet.h | 39 +++++++
2 files changed, 275 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/net/vbus-enet.c b/drivers/net/vbus-enet.c
index e698b3f..8e96c9c 100644
--- a/drivers/net/vbus-enet.c
+++ b/drivers/net/vbus-enet.c
@@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ static int rx_ringlen = 256;
module_param(rx_ringlen, int, 0444);
static int tx_ringlen = 256;
module_param(tx_ringlen, int, 0444);
+static int sg_enabled = 1;
+module_param(sg_enabled, int, 0444);
#undef PDEBUG /* undef it, just in case */
#ifdef VBUS_ENET_DEBUG
@@ -64,8 +66,17 @@ struct vbus_enet_priv {
struct vbus_enet_queue rxq;
struct vbus_enet_queue txq;
struct tasklet_struct txtask;
+ struct {
+ int sg:1;
+ int tso:1;
+ int ufo:1;
+ int tso6:1;
+ int ecn:1;
+ } flags;
};
+static void vbus_enet_tx_reap(struct vbus_enet_priv *priv, int force);
+
static struct vbus_enet_priv *
napi_to_priv(struct napi_struct *napi)
{
@@ -199,6 +210,93 @@ rx_teardown(struct vbus_enet_priv *priv)
}
}
+static int
+tx_setup(struct vbus_enet_priv *priv)
+{
+ struct ioq *ioq = priv->txq.queue;
+ struct ioq_iterator iter;
+ int i;
+ int ret;
+
+ if (!priv->flags.sg)
+ /*
+ * There is nothing to do for a ring that is not using
+ * scatter-gather
+ */
+ return 0;
+
+ ret = ioq_iter_init(ioq, &iter, ioq_idxtype_valid, 0);
+ BUG_ON(ret < 0);
+
+ ret = ioq_iter_seek(&iter, ioq_seek_set, 0, 0);
+ BUG_ON(ret < 0);
+
+ /*
+ * Now populate each descriptor with an empty SG descriptor
+ */
+ for (i = 0; i < tx_ringlen; i++) {
+ struct venet_sg *vsg;
+ size_t iovlen = sizeof(struct venet_iov) * (MAX_SKB_FRAGS-1);
+ size_t len = sizeof(*vsg) + iovlen;
+
+ vsg = kzalloc(len, GFP_KERNEL);
+ if (!vsg)
+ return ...Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
drivers/net/Kconfig | 13 +
drivers/net/Makefile | 1
drivers/net/vbus-enet.c | 706 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
3 files changed, 720 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 drivers/net/vbus-enet.c
diff --git a/drivers/net/Kconfig b/drivers/net/Kconfig
index 62d732a..ac9dabd 100644
--- a/drivers/net/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/net/Kconfig
@@ -3099,4 +3099,17 @@ config VIRTIO_NET
This is the virtual network driver for virtio. It can be used with
lguest or QEMU based VMMs (like KVM or Xen). Say Y or M.
+config VBUS_ENET
+ tristate "Virtual Ethernet Driver"
+ depends on VBUS_DRIVERS
+ help
+ A virtualized 802.x network device based on the VBUS interface.
+ It can be used with any hypervisor/kernel that supports the
+ vbus protocol.
+
+config VBUS_ENET_DEBUG
+ bool "Enable Debugging"
+ depends on VBUS_ENET
+ default n
+
endif # NETDEVICES
diff --git a/drivers/net/Makefile b/drivers/net/Makefile
index 471baaf..61db928 100644
--- a/drivers/net/Makefile
+++ b/drivers/net/Makefile
@@ -264,6 +264,7 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_FS_ENET) += fs_enet/
obj-$(CONFIG_NETXEN_NIC) += netxen/
obj-$(CONFIG_NIU) += niu.o
obj-$(CONFIG_VIRTIO_NET) += virtio_net.o
+obj-$(CONFIG_VBUS_ENET) += vbus-enet.o
obj-$(CONFIG_SFC) += sfc/
obj-$(CONFIG_WIMAX) += wimax/
diff --git a/drivers/net/vbus-enet.c b/drivers/net/vbus-enet.c
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..e698b3f
--- /dev/null
+++ b/drivers/net/vbus-enet.c
@@ -0,0 +1,706 @@
+/*
+ * vbus_enet - A virtualized 802.x network device based on the VBUS interface
+ *
+ * Copyright (C) 2009 Novell, Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
+ *
+ * Derived from the SNULL example from the book "Linux Device Drivers" by
+ * Alessandro Rubini, Jonathan Corbet, and Greg Kroah-Hartman, published
+ * by O'Reilly & Associates.
+ */
+
+#include <linux/module.h>
+#include <linux/init.h>
+#include ...On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:43:34 -0400 Please consider adding basic set of ethtool_ops to allow controlling offload, etc. --
Thanks for the review, Stephen! I will apply all of your recommended fixes for the next release. -Greg
We need a way to detect if a VM is reset later in the series, so lets
add a capability for userspace to signal a VM reset down to the kernel.
Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 1 +
include/linux/kvm.h | 2 ++
include/linux/kvm_host.h | 6 ++++++
virt/kvm/kvm_main.c | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
4 files changed, 45 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
index 758b7a1..9b0a649 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
@@ -971,6 +971,7 @@ int kvm_dev_ioctl_check_extension(long ext)
case KVM_CAP_NOP_IO_DELAY:
case KVM_CAP_MP_STATE:
case KVM_CAP_SYNC_MMU:
+ case KVM_CAP_RESET:
r = 1;
break;
case KVM_CAP_COALESCED_MMIO:
diff --git a/include/linux/kvm.h b/include/linux/kvm.h
index 0424326..7ffd8f5 100644
--- a/include/linux/kvm.h
+++ b/include/linux/kvm.h
@@ -396,6 +396,7 @@ struct kvm_trace_rec {
#ifdef __KVM_HAVE_USER_NMI
#define KVM_CAP_USER_NMI 22
#endif
+#define KVM_CAP_RESET 23
/*
* ioctls for VM fds
@@ -429,6 +430,7 @@ struct kvm_trace_rec {
struct kvm_assigned_pci_dev)
#define KVM_ASSIGN_IRQ _IOR(KVMIO, 0x70, \
struct kvm_assigned_irq)
+#define KVM_RESET _IO(KVMIO, 0x67)
/*
* ioctls for vcpu fds
diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_host.h b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
index bf6f703..506eca1 100644
--- a/include/linux/kvm_host.h
+++ b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
@@ -17,6 +17,7 @@
#include <linux/preempt.h>
#include <linux/marker.h>
#include <linux/msi.h>
+#include <linux/notifier.h>
#include <asm/signal.h>
#include <linux/kvm.h>
@@ -132,6 +133,8 @@ struct kvm {
unsigned long mmu_notifier_seq;
long mmu_notifier_count;
#endif
+
+ struct raw_notifier_head reset_notifier; /* triggers when VM reboots */
};
/* The guest did something we don't support. */
@@ -158,6 +161,9 @@ void kvm_exit(void);
void kvm_get_kvm(struct kvm *kvm);
void ...How do you handle the case of a guest calling kexec to load a new kernel? Or is that not important for your use case? -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
Hmm..I had not considered this. Any suggestions on ways to detect it?
Best would be not to detect it; it's tying global events into a device. Instead, have a reset command for your device and have the driver issue it on load and unload. btw, reset itself would be better controlled from userspace; qemu knows about resets and can reset vbus devices directly instead of relying on kvm to reset them. This decouples the two code bases a bit. This is what virtio does. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
Yes, good point. This is doable within the existing infrastructure, but it would have to be declared in each devices ABI definition. I could make it more formal and add it to the list of low-level bus-verbs, like In a way, this is what I have done (note to self: post the userspace patches) The detection is done by userspace, and it invokes an ioctl. The kernel based devices then react if they are interested. In my case, vbus registers for reset-notification, and it acts as if the guest exited when it gets reset (e.g. it issues DEVICECLOSE verbs to all devices the guest had open).
This patch provides the ability to dynamically declare and map an interrupt-request handle to an x86 8-bit vector. Problem Statement: Emulated devices (such as PCI, ISA, etc) have interrupt routing done via standard PC mechanisms (MP-table, ACPI, etc). However, we also want to support a new class of devices which exist in a new virtualized namespace and therefore should not try to piggyback on these emulated mechanisms. Rather, we create a way to dynamically register interrupt resources that acts indepent of the emulated counterpart. On x86, a simplistic view of the interrupt model is that each core has a local-APIC which can recieve messages from APIC-compliant routing devices (such as IO-APIC and MSI) regarding details about an interrupt (such as which vector to raise). These routing devices are controlled by the OS so they may translate a physical event (such as "e1000: raise an RX interrupt") to a logical destination (such as "inject IDT vector 46 on core 3"). A dynirq is a virtual implementation of such a router (think of it as a virtual-MSI, but without the coupling to an existing standard, such as PCI). The model is simple: A guest OS can allocate the mapping of "IRQ" handle to "vector/core" in any way it sees fit, and provide this information to the dynirq module running in the host. The assigned IRQ then becomes the sole handle needed to inject an IDT vector to the guest from a host. A host entity that wishes to raise an interrupt simple needs to call kvm_inject_dynirq(irq) and the routing is performed transparently. Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> --- arch/x86/Kconfig | 5 + arch/x86/Makefile | 3 arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 9 + arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_para.h | 11 + arch/x86/kvm/Makefile | 3 arch/x86/kvm/dynirq.c | 329 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ arch/x86/kvm/guest/Makefile | 2 arch/x86/kvm/guest/dynirq.c | 95 +++++++++++ ...
A major disadvantage of dynirq is that it will only work on guests which have been ported to it. So this will only be useful on newer Linux, and will likely never work with Windows guests. Why is having an emulated PCI device so bad? We found that it has several advantages: - works with all guests - supports hotplug/hotunplug, udev, sysfs, module autoloading, ... - supported in all OSes - someone else maintains it See also the kvm irq routing work, merged into 2.6.30, which does a small part of what you're describing (the "sole handle" part, specifically). -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
These points are all valid, and I really struggled with this particular part of the design. The entire vbus design only requires one IRQ for the entire guest, so its conceivable that I could present a simple "dummy" PCI device with some "VBUS" type PCI-ID, just to piggy back on the IRQ routing logic. Then userspace could simply pass the IRQ routing info down to the kernel with an ioctl, or something similar. Ultimately I wasn't sure whether I wanted all that goo just to get an IRQ assignment...but on the other hand, we have all this goo to build one in the first place, and its half on the guest side which has the disadvantages you mention. So perhaps this should go in favor of a PCI-esqe type solution, as I think you are suggesting. I think ultimately I was trying to stay away from PCI in general because I want to support environments that do not have PCI. However, for the I will take a look, thanks! (I wish I wish you had accepted those irq patches I wrote a while back.=20 It had the foundation for this type of stuff all built in. But alas, I think it was before its time, and I didn't do a good job of explaining my future plans....) ;) Regards, -Greg
Won't this have scaling issues? One IRQ means one target vcpu. Whereas I'd like virtio devices to span multiple queues, each queue with its own MSI IRQ. Also, the single IRQ handler will need to scan for all potential IRQ sources. Even if implemented carefully, this will cause s/PCI/the native IRQ solution for your platform/. virtio has the same problem; on s390 we use the native (if that word ever applies to s390) interrupt and device discovery mechanism. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
Hmm..you know I hadnt really thought of it that way, but you have a point. To clarify, my design actually uses one IRQ per "eventq", where we can have an arbitrary number of eventq's defined (note: today I only define one eventq, however). An eventq is actually a shm-ring construct where I can pass events up to the host like "device added" or "ring X signaled". Each individual device based virtio-ring would then aggregates "signal" events onto this eventq mechanism to actually inject events to the host. Only the eventq itself injects an actual IRQ to the assigned vcpu. My intended use of multiple eventqs was for prioritization of different rings. For instance, we could define 8 priority levels, each with its own ring/irq. That way, a virtio-net that supports something like 802.1p could define 8 virtio-rings, one for each priority level. But this scheme is more targeted at prioritization than per vcpu irq-balancing. I support the eventq construct I proposed could still be used in this fashion since each has its own routable IRQ. However, I would have to think about that some more because it is beyond the design spec. The good news is that the decision to use the "eventq+irq" approach is completely contained in the kvm-host+guest.patch. We could easily switch to a 1:1 irq:shm-signal if we wanted to, and the device/drivers Well, no, I think this part is covered. As mentioned above, we use a queuing technique so there is no scanning needed. Ultimately I would love to adapt a similar technique to optionally replace the LAPIC. That way we can avoid the EOI trap and just consume the next interrupt (if yeah, I agree. We can contain the "exposure" of PCI to just platforms within KVM that care about it. -Greg
You will get get cachelines bounced around when events from different devices are added to the queue. On the plus side, a single injection can contain interrupts for multiple devices. I'm not sure how useful this coalescing is; certainly you will never see it on microbenchmarks, but that doesn't mean it's not useful. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
This patch adds support for guest access to a VBUS assigned to the same context as the VM. It utilizes a IOQ+IRQ to move events from host->guest, and provides a hypercall interface to move events guest->host. Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> --- arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_para.h | 1 arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig | 9 arch/x86/kvm/Makefile | 3 arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 6 arch/x86/kvm/x86.h | 12 include/linux/kvm.h | 1 include/linux/kvm_host.h | 20 + include/linux/kvm_para.h | 59 ++ virt/kvm/kvm_main.c | 1 virt/kvm/vbus.c | 1307 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 10 files changed, 1419 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 virt/kvm/vbus.c diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_para.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_para.h index fba210e..19d81e0 100644 --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_para.h +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_para.h @@ -14,6 +14,7 @@ #define KVM_FEATURE_NOP_IO_DELAY 1 #define KVM_FEATURE_MMU_OP 2 #define KVM_FEATURE_DYNIRQ 3 +#define KVM_FEATURE_VBUS 4 #define MSR_KVM_WALL_CLOCK 0x11 #define MSR_KVM_SYSTEM_TIME 0x12 diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig b/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig index b81125f..875e96e 100644 --- a/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig @@ -64,6 +64,15 @@ config KVM_TRACE relayfs. Note the ABI is not considered stable and will be modified in future updates. +config KVM_HOST_VBUS + bool "KVM virtual-bus (VBUS) host-side support" + depends on KVM + select VBUS + default n + ---help--- + This option enables host-side support for accessing virtual-bus + devices. + # OK, it's a little counter-intuitive to do this, but it puts it neatly under # the virtualization menu. source drivers/lguest/Kconfig diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/Makefile b/arch/x86/kvm/Makefile index d5676f5..f749ec9 100644 --- ...
Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
drivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c | 236 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
1 files changed, 229 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c b/drivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c
index ccce58e..0ccb7ed 100644
--- a/drivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c
+++ b/drivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c
@@ -80,6 +80,13 @@ enum {
TX_IOQ_CONGESTED,
};
+struct venettap;
+
+struct venettap_rx_ops {
+ int (*decode)(struct venettap *priv, void *ptr, int len);
+ int (*import)(struct venettap *, struct sk_buff *, void *, int);
+};
+
struct venettap {
spinlock_t lock;
unsigned char hmac[ETH_ALEN]; /* host-mac */
@@ -107,6 +114,12 @@ struct venettap {
struct vbus_memctx *ctx;
struct venettap_queue rxq;
struct venettap_queue txq;
+ struct venettap_rx_ops *rx_ops;
+ struct {
+ struct venet_sg *desc;
+ size_t len;
+ int enabled:1;
+ } sg;
int connected:1;
int opened:1;
int link:1;
@@ -288,6 +301,183 @@ venettap_change_mtu(struct net_device *dev, int new_mtu)
}
/*
+ * ---------------------------
+ * Scatter-Gather support
+ * ---------------------------
+ */
+
+/* assumes reference to priv->vbus.conn held */
+static int
+venettap_sg_decode(struct venettap *priv, void *ptr, int len)
+{
+ struct venet_sg *vsg;
+ struct vbus_memctx *ctx;
+ int ret;
+
+ /*
+ * SG is enabled, so we need to pull in the venet_sg
+ * header before we can interpret the rest of the
+ * packet
+ *
+ * FIXME: Make sure this is not too big
+ */
+ if (unlikely(len > priv->vbus.sg.len)) {
+ kfree(priv->vbus.sg.desc);
+ priv->vbus.sg.desc = kzalloc(len, GFP_KERNEL);
+ }
+
+ vsg = priv->vbus.sg.desc;
+ ctx = priv->vbus.ctx;
+
+ ret = ctx->ops->copy_from(ctx, vsg, ptr, ...We need to get hotswap events in environments which cannot use existing
facilities (e.g. inotify). So we add a notifier-chain to allow client
callbacks whenever an interface is {un}registered.
Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
include/linux/vbus.h | 15 +++++++++++++
kernel/vbus/core.c | 59 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
kernel/vbus/vbus.h | 1 +
3 files changed, 75 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/include/linux/vbus.h b/include/linux/vbus.h
index 5f0566c..04db4ff 100644
--- a/include/linux/vbus.h
+++ b/include/linux/vbus.h
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
#include <linux/sched.h>
#include <linux/rcupdate.h>
#include <linux/vbus_device.h>
+#include <linux/notifier.h>
struct vbus;
struct task_struct;
@@ -137,6 +138,20 @@ static inline void task_vbus_disassociate(struct task_struct *p)
}
}
+enum {
+ VBUS_EVENT_DEVADD,
+ VBUS_EVENT_DEVDROP,
+};
+
+struct vbus_event_devadd {
+ const char *type;
+ unsigned long id;
+};
+
+int vbus_notifier_register(struct vbus *vbus, struct notifier_block *nb);
+int vbus_notifier_unregister(struct vbus *vbus, struct notifier_block *nb);
+
+
#else /* CONFIG_VBUS */
#define fork_vbus(p) do { } while (0)
diff --git a/kernel/vbus/core.c b/kernel/vbus/core.c
index 033999f..b6df487 100644
--- a/kernel/vbus/core.c
+++ b/kernel/vbus/core.c
@@ -89,6 +89,7 @@ int vbus_device_interface_register(struct vbus_device *dev,
{
int ret;
struct vbus_devshell *ds = to_devshell(dev->kobj);
+ struct vbus_event_devadd ev;
mutex_lock(&vbus->lock);
@@ -124,6 +125,14 @@ int vbus_device_interface_register(struct vbus_device *dev,
if (ret)
goto error;
+ ev.type = intf->type;
+ ev.id = intf->id;
+
+ /* and let any clients know about the new device */
+ ret = raw_notifier_call_chain(&vbus->notifier, VBUS_EVENT_DEVADD, &ev);
+ if (ret < 0)
+ goto error;
+
mutex_unlock(&vbus->lock);
return 0;
@@ -144,6 +153,7 @@ int ...It will be common to map an IOQ over the VBUS shared-memory interfaces,
so lets generalize their setup so we can reuse the pattern.
Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
---
include/linux/vbus_device.h | 7 +++
include/linux/vbus_driver.h | 7 +++
kernel/vbus/Kconfig | 2 +
kernel/vbus/Makefile | 1
kernel/vbus/proxy.c | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
kernel/vbus/shm-ioq.c | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
6 files changed, 170 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 kernel/vbus/shm-ioq.c
diff --git a/include/linux/vbus_device.h b/include/linux/vbus_device.h
index 705d92e..66990e2 100644
--- a/include/linux/vbus_device.h
+++ b/include/linux/vbus_device.h
@@ -102,6 +102,7 @@
#include <linux/configfs.h>
#include <linux/rbtree.h>
#include <linux/shm_signal.h>
+#include <linux/ioq.h>
#include <linux/vbus.h>
#include <asm/atomic.h>
@@ -413,4 +414,10 @@ static inline void vbus_connection_put(struct vbus_connection *conn)
conn->ops->release(conn);
}
+/*
+ * device-side IOQ helper - dereferences device-shm as an IOQ
+ */
+int vbus_shm_ioq_attach(struct vbus_shm *shm, struct shm_signal *signal,
+ int maxcount, struct ioq **ioq);
+
#endif /* _LINUX_VBUS_DEVICE_H */
diff --git a/include/linux/vbus_driver.h b/include/linux/vbus_driver.h
index c53e13f..9cfbf60 100644
--- a/include/linux/vbus_driver.h
+++ b/include/linux/vbus_driver.h
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
#include <linux/device.h>
#include <linux/shm_signal.h>
+#include <linux/ioq.h>
struct vbus_device_proxy;
struct vbus_driver;
@@ -70,4 +71,10 @@ struct vbus_driver {
int vbus_driver_register(struct vbus_driver *drv);
void vbus_driver_unregister(struct vbus_driver *drv);
+/*
+ * driver-side IOQ helper - allocates device-shm and maps an IOQ on it
+ */
+int vbus_driver_ioq_alloc(struct vbus_device_proxy *dev, int id, int prio,
+ size_t ringsize, struct ioq **ioq);
+
#endif /* ...Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> writes: What might be useful is if you could expand a bit more on what the high level use cases for this. Questions that come to mind and that would be good to answer: This seems to be aimed at having multiple VMs talk to each other, but not talk to the rest of the world, correct? Is that a common use case? Wouldn't they typically have a default route anyways and be able to talk to each other this way? And why can't any such isolation be done with standard firewalling? (it's known that current iptables has some scalability issues, but there's work going on right now to fix that). What would be the use cases for non networking devices? How would the interfaces to the user look like? -Andi -- ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only. --
Actually we didn't design specifically for either type of environment.=20
I think it would, in fact, be well suited to either type of
communication model, even concurrently (e.g. an intra-vm ipc channel
resource could live right on the same bus as a virtio-net and a
vbus itself, and even some of the higher level constructs we apply on
top of it (like venet) are at a different scope than I think what you
are getting at above. Yes, I suppose you could create a private network
using the existing virtio-net + iptables. But you could also do the
same using virtio-net and a private bridge devices as well. That is not
what we are trying to address.
What we *are* trying to address is making an easy way to declare virtual
resources directly in the kernel so that they can be accessed more
efficiently. Contrast that to the way its done today, where the models
live in, say, qemu userspace.
So instead of having
guest->host->qemu::virtio-net->tap->[iptables|bridge], you simply have
guest->host->[iptables|bridge]. How you make your private network (if
that is what you want to do) is orthogonal...its the path to get there
I am not sure if you are asking about the guests perspective or the
host-administators perspective.
First now lets look at the low-level device interface from the guests
perspective. We can cover the admin perspective in a separate doc, if
need be.
Each device in vbus supports two basic verbs: CALL, and SHM
int (*call)(struct vbus_device_proxy *dev, u32 func,
void *data, size_t len, int flags);
int (*shm)(struct vbus_device_proxy *dev, int id, int prio,
void *ptr, size_t len,
struct shm_signal_desc *sigdesc, struct shm_signal **signal,
int flags);
CALL provides a synchronous method for invoking some verb on the device
(defined by "func") with some arbitrary data. The namespace for "func"
is part of the ABI for the device in question. It is analogous to an
ioctl, with the primary difference being that its ...But surely you must have some specific use case in mind? Something that it does better than the various methods that are available today. Or rather there must be some problem you're trying I was wondering about the host-administrators perspective. -Andi -- ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only. --
Performance. We are trying to create a high performance IO infrastructur= e. Ideally we would like to see things like virtual-machines have bare-metal performance (or as close as possible) using just pure software on commodity hardware. The data I provided shows that something like KVM with virtio-net does a good job on throughput even on 10GE, but the latency is several orders of magnitude slower than bare-metal. We are addressing this issue and others like it that are a Ah, ok. Sorry about that. It was probably good to document that other thing anyway, so no harm. So about the host-administrator interface. The whole thing is driven by configfs, and the basics are already covered in the documentation in patch 2, so I wont repeat it here. Here is a reference to the file for everyone's convenience: http://git.kernel.org/?p=3Dlinux/kernel/git/ghaskins/vbus/linux-2.6.git;a= =3Dblob;f=3DDocumentation/vbus.txt;h=3De8a05dafaca2899d37bd4314fb0c7529c1= 67ee0f;hb=3Df43949f7c340bf667e68af6e6a29552e62f59033 So a sufficiently privileged user can instantiate a new bus (e.g. container) and devices on that bus via configfs operations. The types of devices available to instantiate are dictated by whatever vbus-device modules you have loaded into your particular kernel. The loaded modules available are enumerated under /sys/vbus/deviceclass. Now presumably the administrator knows what a particular module is and how to configure it before instantiating it. Once they instantiate it, it will present an interface in sysfs with a set of attributes. For example, an instantiated venet-tap looks like this: ghaskins@test:~> tree /sys/vbus/devices /sys/vbus/devices `-- foo |-- class -> ../../deviceclass/venet-tap |-- client_mac |-- enabled |-- host_mac |-- ifname `-- interfaces `-- 0 -> ../../../instances/bar/devices/0 Some of these attributes, like "class" and "interfaces" are default attributes that are filled in by the infrastructure. ...
Actually, I should also state that I am interested in enabling some new kinds of features based on having in-kernel devices like this. For instance (and this is still very theoretical and half-baked), I would like to try to support RT guests. [adding linux-rt-users] I think one of the things that we need in order to do that is being able to convey vcpu priority state information to the host in an efficient way. I was thinking that a shared-page per vcpu could have something like "current" and "theshold" priorties. The guest modifies "current" while the host modifies "threshold". The guest would be allowed to increase its "current" priority without a hypercall (after all, if its already running presumably it is already of sufficient priority that the scheduler). But if the guest wants to drop below "threshold", it needs to hypercall the host to give it an opportunity to schedule() a new task (vcpu or not). The host, on the other hand, could apply a mapping so that the guests priority of RT1-RT99 might map to RT20-RT30 on the host, or something like that. We would have to take other considerations as well, such as implicit boosting on IRQ injection (e.g. the guest could be in HLT/IDLE when an interrupt is injected...but by virtue of injecting that interrupt we may need to boost it to (guest-relative) RT50). Like I said, this is all half-baked right now. My primary focus is improving performance, but I did try to lay the groundwork for taking things in new directions too..rt being an example. Hope that helps! -Greg
Ok. So the goal is to bypass user space qemu completely for better performance. Can you please put this into the initial patch How would the guest learn of any changes in there? I think the interesting part would be how e.g. a vnet device So it would act like a loop device? Would you reuse the loop device or write something new? How about VFS mount name spaces? -Andi -- ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only. --
FWIW, there's nothing that prevents in-kernel back ends with virtio so vbus certainly isn't required for in-kernel backends. That said, I don't think we're bound today by the fact that we're in userspace. Rather we're bound by the interfaces we have between the host kernel and userspace to generate IO. I'd rather fix those interfaces than put more stuff in the kernel. Regards, Anthony Liguori --
I think there is a slight disconnect here. This is *exactly* what I am trying to do. You can of course do this many ways, and I am not denying it could be done a different way than the path I have chosen. One extreme would be to just slam a virtio-net specific chunk of code directly into kvm on the host. Another extreme would be to build a generic framework into Linux for declaring arbitrary IO types, integrating it with kvm (as well as other environments such as lguest, userspace, etc), and building a virtio-net model on top of that. So in case it is not obvious at this point, I have gone with the latter approach. I wanted to make sure it wasn't kvm specific or something like pci specific so it had the broadest applicability to a range of environments. So that is why the design is the way it is. I understand that this approach is technically "harder/more-complex" than the "slam virtio-net into kvm" approach, but I've already done that work. All we You will *always* be bound by the fact that you are in userspace. Its purely a question of "how much" and "does anyone care". Right now, the anwer is "a lot (roughly 45x slower)" and "at least Greg's customers do". I have no doubt that this can and will change/improve in the future. But it will always be true that no matter how much userspace improves, the kernel based solution will always be faster. Its simple physics. I'm cutting out the middleman to ultimately reach the same destination as the userspace path, so userspace can never be equal. I agree that the "does anyone care" part of the equation will approach zero as the latency difference shrinks across some threshold (probably the single microsecond range), but I will believe that is even possible when I see it ;) Regards, -Greg
If it were exactly what you were trying to do, you would have posted a virtio-net in-kernel backend implementation instead of a whole new Again, let's talk numbers. A heavy-weight exit is 1us slower than a light weight exit. Ideally, you're taking < 1 exit per packet because you're batching notifications. If you're ping latency on bare metal compared to vbus is 39us to 65us, then all other things being equally, the cost imposed by doing what your doing in userspace would make the latency be 66us taking your latency from 166% of native to 169% of native. That's not a huge difference and I'm sure you'll agree there are a lot of opportunities to improve that even further. And you didn't mention whether your latency tests are based on ping or something more sophisticated as ping will be a pathological case that Note the other hat we have to where is not just virtualization developer but Linux developer. If there are bad userspace interfaces for IO that impose artificial restrictions, then we need to identify those and fix them. Regards, --
semantics, semantics ;) Ok, so lets see it happen. Consider the gauntlet thrown :) Your challenge, should you chose to accept it, is to take todays 4000us and hit a 65us latency target while maintaining 10GE line-rate (at least 1500 mtu line-rate). I personally don't want to even stop at 65. I want to hit that 36us! =20 In case you think that is crazy, my first prototype of venet was hitting about 140us, and I shaved 10us here, 10us there, eventually getting down to the 65us we have today. The low hanging fruit is all but harvested at this point, but I am not done searching for additional sources of latency. I just needed to take a breather to get the code out there for Well, the numbers posted were actually from netperf -t UDP_RR. This generates a pps from a continuous (but non-bursted) RTT measurement. So I invert the pps result of this test to get the average rtt time. I have also confirmed that ping jives with these results (e.g. virtio-net results were about 4ms, and venet were about 0.065ms as reported by ping)= Ah, but this is not really pathological IMO. There are plenty of workloads that exhibit request-reply patterns (e.g. RPC), and this is a direct measurement of the systems ability to support these efficiently. And even unidirectional flows can be hampered by poor latency (think PTP clock sync, etc). Massive throughput with poor latency is like Andrew Tanenbaum's station-wagon full of backup tapes ;) I think I have proven we can Well, if we can take anything away from all this: I think I have demonstrated that you don't need notification batching to get good throughput. And batching on the head-end of the queue adds directly to your latency overhead, so I don't think its a good technique in general (though I realize that not everyone cares about latency, per se, so Fair enough, and I would love to take that on but alas my development/debug bandwidth is rather finite these days ;) -Greg
virtio is already non-kvm-specific (lguest uses it) and non-pci-specific If you have a good exit mitigation scheme you can cut exits by a factor of 100; so the userspace exit costs are cut by the same factor. If you have good copyless networking APIs you can cut the cost of copies to zero (well, to the cost of get_user_pages_fast(), but a kernel solution needs that too). -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
I think Greg's work shows that putting the backend in the kernel can dramatically reduce the cost of a single guest->host transaction. Given the choice of having to mitigate or not having the problem in the first place, guess what I would prefer :) Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
Virtio suffers because we've had no notification of when a packet is actually submitted. With the notification, the only difference should be in the cost of a kernel->user switch, which is nowhere nearly as There is no choice. Exiting from the guest to the kernel to userspace is prohibitively expensive, you can't do that on every packet. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
I was referring to the bit between the kernel and userspace. In any case, I just looked at the virtio mitigation code again and I am completely baffled at why we need it. Look at Greg's code or the netback/netfront notification, why do we need this completely artificial mitigation when the ring itself provides a natural way of stemming the flow? Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
If the vcpu thread does the transmit, then it will always complete sending immediately: guest: push packet, notify qemu qemu: disable notification qemu: pop packet qemu: copy to tap qemu: ?? At this point, qemu must enable notification again, since we have no notification from tap that the transmit completed. The only alternative is the timer. If we do the transmit through an extra thread, then scheduling latency buys us some time: guest: push packet, notify qemu qemu: disable notification qemu: schedule iothread iothread: pop packet iothread: copy to tap iothread: check for more packets iothread: enable notification If tap told us when the packets were actually transmitted, life would be wonderful: guest: push packet, notify qemu qemu: disable notification qemu: pop packet qemu: queue on tap qemu: return to guest hardware: churn churn churn tap: packet is out iothread: check for more packets iothread: enable notification -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
And why do we need this? Because we are in user space! I'll continue to wait for your patch and numbers :) Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
And in case you're working on that patch, this might interest you. Check out the netdev thread titled "TX time stamping". Now that we assign the tap skb with its own sk, these two scenarios are pretty much identical. I also noitced despite davem's threats to revert the patch, it has now made Linus's tree :) Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
Why does a kernel solution not need to know when a packet is transmitted? -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
Because you can install your own destructor? I don't know what Greg did, but netback did that nasty page destructor hack which Jeremy is trying to undo :) Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
So we're back to "the problem is with the kernel->user interface, not userspace being cursed into slowness". -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
Well until you have a patch + numbers that's only an allegation :) -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
You do not need to know when the packet is copied (which I currently do). You only need it for zero-copy (of which I would like to support, but as I understand it there are problems with the reliability of proper callback (i.e. skb->destructor). Its "fire and forget" :) -Greg
It's more of a "schedule and forget" which I think brings you the win. The host disables notifications and schedules the actual tx work (rx from the host's perspective). So now the guest and host continue producing and consuming packets in parallel. So long as the guest is faster (due to the host being throttled?), notifications continue to be disabled. If you changed your rx_isr() to process the packets immediately instead of scheduling, I think throughput would drop dramatically. Mark had a similar change for virtio. Mark? -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
Yep, when the "producer::consumer" ratio is > 1, we mitigate signaling.=20 Right, that is the point. :) This is that "soft asic" thing I was talking about yesterday. -Greg
But all that has nothing to do with where the code lives, in the kernel or userspace. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
Agreed, but note Ive already stated that some of my boost is likely from in-kernel, while others are unrelated design elements such as the "soft-asic" approach (you guys dont read my 10 page emails, do you? ;).=20 I don't deny that some of my ideas could be used in userspace as well (Credit if used would be appreciated :). -Greg
But if you have a UP guest, there will *never* be another packet in the queue at this point, since it wasn't running. As Avi said, you can do the processing in another thread and go back to the guest; lguest pre-virtio did a hacky "weak" wakeup to ensure the guest ran again before the thread did for exactly this kind of reason. While Avi's point about a "powerful enough userspace API" is probably valid, I don't think it's going to happen. It's almost certainly less code to put a virtio_net server in the kernel, than it is to create such a powerful interface (see vringfd & tap). And that interface would have one user in practice. So, let's roll out a kernel virtio_net server. Anyone? Rusty. --
Yep, and I'll be the first to admit that my design only looks forward.=20 Its for high speed links and multi-core cpus, etc. If you have a uniprocessor host, the throughput would likely start to suffer with my current strategy. You could probably reclaim some of that throughput (but trading latency) by doing as you are suggesting with the deferred initial signalling. However, it is still a tradeoff to account for the lower-end rig. I could certainly put a heuristic/timer on the guest->host to mitigate this as well, but this is not my target use case Hmm..well I was hoping to be able to work with you guys to make my proposal fit this role. If there is no interest in that, I hope that my infrastructure itself may still be considered for merging (in *some* tree, not -kvm per se) as I would prefer to not maintain it out of tree if it can be avoided. I think people will find that the new logic touches very few existing kernel lines at all, and can be completely disabled with config options so it should be relatively inconsequential to those that do not care. -Greg
To clarify, I am referring to the internal design of the venet-tap only. The general vbus architecture makes no such policy decisions. -Greg
The problem is that we already have virtio guest drivers going several kernel versions back, as well as Windows drivers. We can't keep changing the infrastructure under people's feet. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
That doesnt make sense to me, tho. All the testing I did was a UP guest, actually. Why would I be constrained to run without the Well, IIUC the virtio code itself declares the ABI as unstable, so there technically *is* an out if we really wanted one. But I certainly understand the desire to not change this ABI if at all possible, and thus the resistance here. However, theres still the possibility we can make this work in an ABI friendly way with cap-bits, or other such features. For instance, the virtio-net driver could register both with pci and vbus-proxy and instantiate a device with a slightly different ops structure for each or something. Alternatively we could write a host-side shim to expose vbus devices as pci devices or something like that.
Well, the first solution would be relatively trivial...at least on the guest side. All the other infrastructure is done and included in the series I sent out. The changes to the virtio-net driver on the guest itself would be minimal. The bigger effort would be converting venet-tap to use virtio-ring instead of IOQ. But this would arguably be less work than starting a virtio-net backend module from scratch because you would have to not only code up the entire virtio-net backend, but also all the pci emulation and irq routing stuff that is required (and is already done by the vbus infrastructure). Here all the major pieces are in place, just the xmit and rx routines need to be converted to virtio-isms. For the second option, I agree. Its probably too nasty and it would be better if there was just either a virtio-net to kvm-host hack, or a more pci oriented version of a vbus-like framework. That said, there is certainly nothing wrong with having an alternate option. There is plenty of precedent for having different drivers for different subsystems, etc, even if there is overlap. Heck, even KVM has realtek, e1000, and virtio-net, etc. Would our kvm community be willing to work with me to get these patches merged? I am perfectly willing to maintain them. That said, the general infrastructure should probably not live in -kvm (perhaps -tip, -mm, or -next, etc is more appropriate). So a good plan might be to shoot for the core going into a more general upstream tree. When/if that happens, then the kvm community could consider the kvm specific parts, etc. I realize this is all pending review acceptance by everyone involved... -Greg
Going off on a tangent here, I don't really think it should matter whether we're UP or SMP. The ideal state is where we have the same number of (virtual) TX queues as there are cores in the guest. On the host side we need the backend to run at least on a core that shares cache with the corresponding guest queue/core. If that happens to be the same core as the guest core then it should work as well. Yes I agree that changing the guest-side driver is a no-no. However, we should be able to achieve what's shown here without modifying the guest-side. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
Good point - if we rely on having excess cores in the host, large guest scalability will drop. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
Going back to TX mitigation, I wonder if we could avoid it altogether by having a "wakeup" mechanism that does not involve a vmexit. We have two cases: 1) UP, or rather guest runs on the same core/hyperthread as the backend. This is the easy one, the guest simply sets a marker in shared memory and keeps going until its time is up. Then the backend takes over, and uses a marker for notification too. The markers need to be interpreted by the scheduler so that it knows the guest/backend is runnable, respectively. 2) The guest and backend runs on two cores/hyperthreads. We'll assume that they share caches as otherwise mitigation is the last thing to worry about. We use the same marker mechanism as above. The only caveat is that if one core/hyperthread is idle, its idle thread needs to monitor the marker (this would be a separate per-core marker) to wake up the scheduler. CCing Ingo so that he can flame me if I'm totally off the mark. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
Let's look at this first. What if the guest sends N packets, then does some expensive computation (say the guest scheduler switches from the benchmark process to evolution). So now we have the marker set at packet N, but the host will not see it until the guest timeslice is up? I think I totally misunderstood you. Can you repeat in smaller words? -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
Well that's fine. The guest will use up the remainder of its timeslice. After all we only have one core/hyperthread here so this is no different than if the packets were held up higher up in the guest kernel and the guest decided to do some computation. Once its timeslice completes the backend can start plugging away at the backlog. Of course it would be better to put the backend on another core that shares the cache or a hyperthread on the same core. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
3ms latency for ping? (ping will always be scheduled immediately when the reply arrives if I understand cfs, so guest load won't delay it) -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
That only happens if the guest immediately does some CPU-intensive computation 3ms and assuming its timeslice lasts that long. In any case, the same thing will happen right now if the host or some other guest on the same CPU hogs the CPU for 3ms. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
Even better, look at the packet's TOS. If it's marked for low- latency then vmexit immediately. Otherwise continue. In the backend you'd just set the marker in shared memory. Of course invert this for the host => guest direction. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
If the host is overloaded, that's fair. But millisecond latencies without host contention is not a good result. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
BTW, whatever approach is chosen, to enable zero-copy transmits, it seems that we still must add tracking of when the skb has actually been transmitted, right? Rusty, I think this is what you did in your patch from 2008 to add destructor for skb data ( http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2008/4/18/1464944 ): and it seems that it would make zero-copy possible - or was there some problem with that approach? Do you happen to remember? -- MST --
I'm planning on resurrecting it to replace the page destructor used by
Xen netback.
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Now you are making my point ;) This is part of the cost of your signaling path, and it directly adds to your latency time. You can't buffer packets here if the guest is only going to send one and wait for a response and expect that to perform well. And this is precisely what drove me to look at avoiding going back to userspace in the first place. -Greg
It adds a microsecond. The kvm overhead of putting things in userspace is low enough, I don't know why people keep mentioning it. The problem We're not buffering any packets. What we lack is a way to tell the guest that we're done processing all packets in the ring (IOW, re-enable notifications). -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
I didn't look at virtio-net very closely yet. I wonder why the notification is that a big issue though. It is easy to keep the number of notifications low without increasing latency: Check shared ring status when stuffing a request. If there are requests not (yet) consumed by the other end there is no need to send a notification. That scheme can even span multiple rings (nics with rx and tx for example). Host backend can put a limit on the number of requests it takes out of the queue at once. i.e. block backend can take out some requests, throw them at the block layer, check whenever any request in flight is done, if so send back replies, start over again. guest can put more requests into the queue meanwhile without having to notify the host. I've seen the number of notifications going down to zero when running disk benchmarks in the guest ;) Of course that works best with one or more I/O threads, so the vcpu doesn't has to stop running anyway to get the I/O work done ... cheers, Gerd --
If the host is able to consume a request immediately, and the guest is not able to batch requests, this breaks down. And that is the current situation. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
Hang on, why is the host consuming the request immediately? It has to write the packet to tap, which then calls netif_rx_ni so it should actually go all the way, no? Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
The host writes the packet to tap, at which point it is consumed from its point of view. The host would like to mention that if there was an API to notify it when the packet was actually consumed, then it would gladly use it. Bonus points if this involves not copying the packet. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
We're using write(2) for this, no? That should invoke netif_rx_ni which blocks until the packet is "processed", which usually means that it's placed on the NIC's hardware queue. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
It doesn't copy and queue the packet? We use O_NONBLOCK and poll() so we can tell when we can queue without blocking. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
Well netif_rx queues the packet, but netif_rx_ni is netif_rx plus an immediate flush. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
But it flushes the tap device, the packet still has to go through the bridge + real interface? Even if it's queued there, I want to know when the packet is on the wire, not on some random software or hardware queue in the middle. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
Which under normal circumstances should occur before netif_rx_ni returns. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
> Check shared ring status when stuffing a request. If there are requests That means you're bouncing cache lines all the time. Probably not a big issue on single socket but could be on larger systems. -Andi --
If the backend is running on a core that doesn't share caches with the guest queue then you've got bigger problems. Right this is unavoidable for guests with many CPUs but that should go away once we support multiqueue in virtio-net. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
That's why I'd like requests to be handled on the vcpu thread rather than an auxiliary thread. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
FWIW: I employ this scheme. The shm-signal construct has a "dirty" and "pending" flag (all on the same cacheline, which may or may not address Andi's later point). The first time you dirty the shm, it sets both flags. The consumer side has to clear "pending" before any subsequent signals are sent. Normally the consumer side will also clear "enabled" (as part of the bidir napi thing) to further disable signals. -Greg
Ok, then to be more specific, I need it to be more generic than it already is. For instance, I need it to be able to integrate with shm_signals. If we can do that without breaking the existing ABI, that would be great! Last I looked, it was somewhat entwined here so I didnt try...but I admit that I didnt try that hard since I already had the IOQ "exit mitigation' schemes are for bandwidth, not latency. For latency it all comes down to how fast you can signal in both directions. If someone is going to do a stand-alone request-reply, its generally always going to be at least one hypercall and one rx-interrupt. So your speed will be governed by your signal path, not your buffer bandwidth. What Ive done is shown that you can use techniques other than buffering the head of the queue to do exit mitigation for bandwidth, while still maintaining a very short signaling path for latency. And I also argue that the latter will always be optimal in the kernel, though I know by which degree is still TBD. Anthony thinks he can make the difference negligible, and I would love to see it but am skeptical. -Greg
The userspace path is longer by 2 microseconds (for two additional heavyweight exits) and a few syscalls. I don't think that's worthy of putting all the code in the kernel. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
Well, shm_signals is what I designed to be the event mechanism for vbus devices. One of the design criteria of shm_signal is that it should support a variety of environments, such as kvm, but also something like userspace apps. So I cannot make assumptions about things like "pci interrupts", etc. So if I want to use it in vbus, virtio-ring has to be able to use them, as opposed to what it does today. Part of this would be a natural fit for the "kick()" callback in virtio, but there are other problems. For one, virtio-ring (IIUC) does its own event-masking directly in the virtio metadata. However, really I want the higher layer ring-overlay to do its masking in terms of the lower-layered shm_signal in order to work the way I envision this stuff. If you look at the IOQ implementation, this is exactly what it does. To be clear, and Ive stated this in the past: venet is just an example of this generic, in-kernel concept. We plan on doing much much more with all this. One of the things we are working on is have userspace clients be able to access this too, with an ultimately goal of supporting things like having guest-userspace doing bypass, rdma, etc.=20 We are not there yet, though...only the kvm-host to guest kernel is currently functional and is thus the working example. I totally "get" the attraction to doing things in userspace. Its contained, naturally isolated, easily supports migration, etc. Its also a penalty. Bare-metal userspace apps have a direct path to the kernel IO. I want to give guest the same advantage. Some people will care more about things like migration than performance, and that is fine.=20 But others will certainly care more about performance, and that is what By your own words, the exit to userspace is "prohibitively expensive", so that is either true or its not. If its 2 microseconds, show me. We need the rtt time to go from a "kick" PIO all the way to queue a packet on the egress hardware and return. That is going to define ...
virtio doesn't make these assumptions either. The only difference I see In user/test/x86/vmexit.c, change 'cpuid' to 'out %al, $0'; drop the printf() in kvmctl.c's test_outb(). I get something closer to 4 microseconds, but that's on a two year old machine; It will be around two on Nehalems. My 'prohibitively expensive' is true only if you exit every packet. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
Understood, but yet you need to do this if you want something like iSCSI READ transactions to have as low-latency as possible. -Greg
Dunno, two microseconds is too much? The wire imposes much more. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
No, but thats not what we are talking about. You said signaling on every packet is prohibitively expensive. I am saying signaling on every packet is required for decent latency. So is it prohibitively expensive or not? I think most would agree that adding 2us is not bad, but so far that is an unproven theory that the IO path in question only adds 2us. And we are not just looking at the rate at which we can enter and exit the guest...we need the whole path...from the PIO kick to the dev_xmit() on the egress hardware, to the ingress and rx-injection. This includes any and all penalties associated with the path, even if they are imposed by something like the design of tun-tap. Right now its way way way worse than 2us. In fact, at my last reading this was more like 3060us (3125-65). So shorten that 3125 to 67 (while maintaining line-rate) and I will be impressed. Heck, shorten it to 80us and I will be impressed. -Greg
We're heading dangerously into the word-game area. Let's not do that. If you have a high throughput workload with many packets per seconds then an exit per packet (whether to userspace or to the kernel) is expensive. So you do exit mitigation. Latency is not important since the packets are going to sit in the output queue anyway. If you have a request-response workload with the wire idle and latency critical, then there's no problem having an exit per packet because (a) there aren't that many packets and (b) the guest isn't doing any batching, so guest overhead will swamp the hypervisor overhead. If you have a low latency request-response workload mixed with a high throughput workload, then you aren't going to get low latency since your low latency packets will sit on the queue behind the high throughput packets. You can fix that with multiqueue and then you're back to one Correct, we need to look at the whole path. That's why the wishing well The 3060us thing is a timer, not cpu time. We aren't starting a JVM for each packet. We could remove it given a notification API, or duplicating the sched-and-forget thing, like Rusty did with lguest or Mark with qemu. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
Agreed. virtio-net currently does this with batching. I do with the bidir napi thing (which effectively crosses the producer::consumer > 1 Right, so the trick is to use an algorithm that adapts here. Batching solves the first case, but not the second. The bidir napi thing solves both, but it does assume you have ample host processing power to run the algorithm concurrently. This may or may not be suitable to all Agreed, and thats ok. Now we are getting more into 802.1p type MQ Agreed, but its still "state of the art" from an observer perspective.=20 The reason "why", though easily explainable, is inconsequential to most people. FWIW, I have seen virtio-net do a much more respectable 350us Heh...it kind of feels like that right now, so hopefully some improvement will at least be on the one thing that comes out of all this.= -Greg
The alternative is to get a notification from the stack that the packet is done processing. Either an skb destructor in the kernel, or my new All I want is the notification, and the timer is headed into the nearest landfill. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
btw, my new api is io_submit(..., nr, ...): submit nr packets io_getevents(): complete nr packets -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
I don't think we even need that to end this debate. I'm convinced we have a bug somewhere. Even disabling TX mitigation, I see a ping latency of around 300ns whereas it's only 50ns on the host. This defies logic so I'm now looking to isolate why that is. Regards, Anthony Liguori --
I'm down to 90us. Obviously, s/ns/us/g above. The exec.c changes were the big winner... I hate qemu sometimes. I'm pretty confident I can get at least to Greg's numbers with some poking. I think I understand why he's doing better after reading his patches carefully but I also don't think it'll scale with many guests well... stay tuned. But most importantly, we are darn near where vbus is with this patch wrt added packet latency and this is totally from userspace with no host kernel changes. So no, userspace is not the issue. Regards,
The way I read it, it will run only run slowly once per page, then settle to a cache miss per page. Regardless, it makes a memslot model even more attractive. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
UDP_RR test was limited by CPU consumption. QEMU was pegging a CPU with only about 4000 packets per second whereas the host could do 14000. An oprofile run showed that phys_page_find/cpu_physical_memory_rw where at the top by a wide margin which makes little sense since virtio is zero copy in kvm-userspace today. That leaves the ring queue accessors that used ld[wlq]_phys and friends that happen to make use of the above. That led me to try this terrible hack below and low and beyond, we immediately jumped to 10000 pps. This only works because almost nothing uses ld[wlq]_phys in practice except for virtio so breaking it for the non-RAM case didn't matter. We didn't encounter this before because when I changed this behavior, I tested streaming and ping. Both remained the same. You can only expose this issue if you first disable tx mitigation. Anyway, if we're able to send this many packets, I suspect we'll be able to also handle much higher throughputs without TX mitigation so that's what I'm going to look at now. Regards, Anthony Liguori --
Awesome! I'm prepared to eat my words :) On the subject of TX mitigation, can we please set a standard on how we measure it? For instance, do we bind the the backend qemu to the same CPU as the guest, or do we bind it to a different CPU that shares cache? They're two completely different scenarios and I think we should be explicit about which one we're measuring. Thanks, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
Anthony, Any news on this? I'm anxious to see virtio-net performance on par with the virtual-bus results. Thanks, Alex --
[ Ive already said this privately to Anthony on IRC, but ..] Hey, congrats! Thats impressive actually. So I realize that perhaps you guys are not quite seeing my long term vision here, which I think will offer some new features that we dont have today. I hope to change that over the coming weeks. However, I should also point out that perhaps even if, as of right now, my one and only working module (venet-tap) were all I could offer, it does give us a "rivalry" position between the two, and this historically has been a good thing on many projects. This helps foster innovation through competition that potentially benefits both. Case in point, a little competition provoked an investigation that brought virtio-net's latency down from 3125us to 90us. I realize its not a production-ready patch quite yet, but I am confident Anthony will find something that is suitable to checkin very soon. That's a huge improvement to a problem that was just sitting around unnoticed because there was nothing to compare it with. So again, I am proposing for consideration of accepting my work (either in its current form, or something we agree on after the normal review process) not only on the basis of the future development of the platform, but also to keep current components in their running to their full potential. I will again point out that the code is almost completely off to the side, can be completely disabled with config options, and I will maintain it. Therefore the only real impact is to people who care to even try it, and to me. -Greg
Your work is a whole stack. Let's look at the constituents. - a new virtual bus for enumerating devices. Sorry, I still don't see the point. It will just make writing drivers more difficult. The only advantage I've heard from you is that it gets rid of the gunk. Well, we still have to support the gunk for non-pv devices so the gunk is basically free. The clean version is expensive since we need to port it to all guests and implement exciting features like hotplug. - finer-grained point-to-point communication abstractions Where virtio has ring+signalling together, you layer the two. For networking, it doesn't matter. For other applications, it may be helpful, perhaps you have something in mind. - your "bidirectional napi" model for the network device virtio implements exactly the same thing, except for the case of tx mitigation, due to my (perhaps pig-headed) rejection of doing things in a separate thread, and due to the total lack of sane APIs for packet traffic. - a kernel implementation of the host networking device Given the continuous rejection (or rather, their continuous non-adoption-and-implementation) of my ideas re zerocopy networking aio, that seems like a pragmatic approach. I wish it were otherwise. - a promise of more wonderful things yet to come Obviously I can't evaluate this. Did I miss anything? Right now my preferred course of action is to implement a prototype userspace notification for networking. Second choice is to move the host virtio implementation into the kernel. I simply don't see how the rest of the stack is cost effective. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
My real objection to PCI is fast-path related. I don't object, per se, to using PCI for discovery and hotplug. If you use PCI just for these types of things, but then allow fastpath to use more hypercall oriented primitives, then I would agree with you. We can leave PCI emulation in user-space, and we get it for free, and things are relatively tidy. Its once you start requiring that we stay ABI compatible with something like the existing virtio-net in x86 KVM where I think it starts to get ugly when you try to move it into the kernel. So that is what I had a real objection to. I think as long as we are not talking about trying to make something like that work, its a much more viable prospect. So what I propose is the following:=20 1) The core vbus design stays the same (or close to it) 2) the vbus-proxy and kvm-guest patch go away 3) the kvm-host patch changes to work with coordination from the userspace-pci emulation for things like MSI routing 4) qemu will know to create some MSI shim 1:1 with whatever it instantiates on the bus (and can communicate changes 5) any drivers that are written for these new PCI-IDs that might be present are allowed to use a hypercall ABI to talk after they have been probed for that ID (e.g. they are not limited to PIO or MMIO BAR type access methods). Once I get here, I might have greater clarity to see how hard it would make to emulate fast path components as well. It might be easier than I think. This is all off the cuff so it might need some fine tuning before its actually workable. Yeah, actually. Thanks for bringing that up. So the reason why signaling and the ring are distinct constructs in the design is to facilitate constructs other than rings. For instance, there may be some models where having a flat shared page is better than a ring. A ring will naturally preserve all values in flight, where as a flat shared page would not (last update is always current). There are some algorithms where a previously posted ...
I don't see why the fast path of virtio-net would be bad. Can you elaborate? Sorry, I still don't see what advantage this has over PCI, and how you The way we'd to it with virtio is to add a feature bit that say "you can hypercall here instead of pio". This way old drivers continue to work. Note that nothing prevents us from trapping pio in the kernel (in fact, we do) and forwarding it to the device. It shouldn't be any slower than The vbus part (I assume you mean device enumeration) worries me. I don't think you've yet set down what its advantages are. Being pure and clean doesn't count, unless you rip out PCI from all existing installed You keep falling into the paravirtualize the entire universe trap. If you look deep down, you can see Jeremy struggling in there trying to bring dom0 support to Linux/Xen. The lapic is a huge ball of gunk but ripping it out is a monumental job with no substantial benefits. We can at much lower effort avoid the EOI trap by paravirtualizing that small bit of ugliness. Sure the result isn't a pure and clean room implementation. It's a band aid. But I'll take a 50-line band aid over a 3000-line implementation split across guest and host, which only works with Linux. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
At the very least, PIOs are slightly slower than hypercalls. Perhaps not enough to care, but the last time I measured them they were slower, and therefore my clean slate design doesn't use them. But I digress. I think I was actually kind of agreeing with you that we I think you are confusing the vbus-proxy (guest side) with the vbus backend. (1) is saying "keep the vbus backend'" and (2) is saying drop the guest side stuff. In this proposal, the guest would speak a PCI ABI as far as its concerned. Devices in the vbus backend would render as Well, if the device model was an object in vbus down in the kernel, yet PCI emulation was up in qemu, presumably we would want something to handle things like PCI config-cycles up in userspace. Like, for instance, if the guest re-routes the MSI. The shim/proxy would handle the config-cycle, and then turn around and do an ioctl to the kernel to configure the change with the in-kernel device model (or the irq infrastructure, as required). But, TBH, I haven't really looked into whats actually required to make Yep, agreed. This is what I was thinking we could do. But now that I have the possibility that I just need to write a virtio-vbus module to Sure, its just slightly slower, so I would prefer pure hypercalls if at No, you are confusing the front-end and back-end again ;) The back-end remains, and holds the device models as before. This is the "vbus core". Today the front-end interacts with the hypervisor to render "vbus" specific devices. The proposal is to eliminate the front-end, and have the back end render the objects on the bus as PCI devices to the guest. I am not sure if I can make it work, yet. It You are being overly dramatic. No one has ever said we are talking about ripping something out. In fact, I've explicitly stated that PCI can coexist peacefully. Having more than one bus in a system is certainly not without precedent (PCI, scsi, usb, etc). Rather, PCI is PCI, and will always be. PCI was ...
One thing I thought of trying to get this generic is to use file descriptors as irq handles. So: - userspace exposes a PCI device (same as today) - guest configures its PCI IRQ (using MSI if it supports it) - userspace handles this by calling KVM_IRQ_FD which converts the irq to a file descriptor - userspace passes this fd to the kernel, or another userspace process - end user triggers guest irqs by writing to this fd We could do the same with hypercalls: - guest and host userspace negotiate hypercall use through PCI config space - userspace passes an fd to the kernel - whenever the guest issues an hypercall, the kernel writes the arguments to the fd It seems to me this already exists, it's the qemu device model. The host kernel doesn't need any knowledge of how the devices are Given that we have PCI, why would we do an alternative? It works, it works with Windows, the nasty stuff is in userspace. Why The kernel need know nothing about PCI, so I don't see how you work this You've stated it, but failed to provide arguments for it. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
And more stuff in the kernel can come at the potential cost of weakening protection/isolation. --
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I'm sorry but I totally disagree with that. By having our IO infrastructure in user-space we've basically given up the main advantage of kvm, which is that the physical drivers operate in the same environment as the hypervisor. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
I don't understand this. If we had good interfaces, all that userspace would do is translate guest physical addresses to host physical addresses, and translate the guest->host protocol to host API calls. I don't see anything there that benefits from being in the kernel. Can you elaborate? -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
I think Greg has expressed it clearly enough. At the end of the day, the numbers speak for themselves. So if and when there's a user-space version that achieves the same or better results, then I will change my mind :) Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
Like Anthony said, the problem is with the kernel->user interfaces. We won't have a good user space virtio implementation until that is fixed. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
If it's just the interface that's bad, then it should be possible to do a proof-of-concept patch to show that this is the case. Even if we have to redesign the interface, at least you can then say that you guys were right all along :) Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
The only events explicitly supported by the infrastructure of this
nature would be device-add and device-remove. So when an admin adds or
removes a device to a bus, the guest would see driver::probe() and
driver::remove() callbacks, respectively. All other events are left (by
design) to be handled by the device ABI itself, presumably over the
provided shm infrastructure.
So for instance, I have on my todo list to add a third shm-ring for
events in the venet ABI. One of the event-types I would like to
support is LINK_UP and LINK_DOWN. These events would be coupled to the
administrative manipulation of the "enabled" attribute in sysfs. Other
event-types could be added as needed/appropriate.
I decided to do it this way because I felt it didn't make sense for me
to expose the attributes directly, since they are often back-end
specific anyway. Therefore I leave it to the device-specific ABI which
Ah, good question. This ties into the statement I made earlier about
how presumably the administrative agent would know what a module is and
how it works. As part of this, they would also handle any kind of
additional work, such as wiring the backend up. Here is a script that I
use for testing that demonstrates this:
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#!/bin/bash
set -e
modprobe venet-tap
mount -t configfs configfs /config
bridge=3Dvbus-br0
brctl addbr $bridge
brctl setfd $bridge 0
ifconfig $bridge up
createtap()
{
mkdir /config/vbus/devices/$1-dev
echo venet-tap > /config/vbus/devices/$1-dev/type
mkdir /config/vbus/instances/$1-bus
ln -s /config/vbus/devices/$1-dev /config/vbus/instances/$1-bus
echo 1 > /sys/vbus/devices/$1-dev/enabled
ifname=3D$(cat /sys/vbus/devices/$1-dev/ifname)
ifconfig $ifname up
brctl addif $bridge $ifname
}
createtap client
createtap server
--------------------
This script creates two buses ("client-bus" and "server-bus"),
instantiates a single venet-tap on each of them, and then "wires" them
together ...Ok so you rely on a transaction model where everything is set up before it is somehow comitted to the guest? I hope that is made The usual problem with that is permissions. Just making qemu-ifup suid Not only because of blocking, but also because of security issues. After all one of the usual reasons to run a guest is security isolation. In general the more powerful the guest API the more risky it is, so some self moderation is probably a good thing. -Andi -- ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only. --
Well, its not an explicit transaction model, but I guess you could think of it that way. Generally you set the device up before you launch the guest. By the time the guest loads and tries to scan the bus for the initial discovery, all the devices would be ready to go. This does bring up the question of hotswap. Today we fully support hotswap in and out, but leaving this "enabled" transaction to the individual device means that the device-id would be visible in the bus namespace before the device may want to actually communicate. Hmmm Perhaps I need to build this in as a more explicit "enabled" feature...and the guest will not see the driver::probe() until this happe= Well, its kind of out of my control. venet-tap ultimately creates a simple netif interface which we must do something with. Once its created, "wiring" it up to something like a linux-bridge is no different than something like a tun-tap, so the qemu-ifup requirement doesn't chang= e. The one thing I can think of is it would be possible to build a "venet-switch" module, and this could be done without using brctl or qemu-ifup...but then I would lose all the benefits of re-using that infrastructure. I do not recommend we actually do this, but it would Oh yeah, totally agreed. Not that I am advocating this, because I have abandoned the idea. But back when I was thinking of this, I would have addressed the security with the vbus and syscall-proxy-device objects themselves. E.g. if you dont instantiate a syscall-proxy-device on the bus, the guest wouldnt have access to syscalls at all. And you could put filters into the module to limit what syscalls were allowed, which -Greg
That rtt time is awful. I know the notification suppression heuristic in qemu sucks. I could dig through the code, but I'll ask directly: what heuristic do you use for notification prevention in your venet_tap driver? As you point out, 350-450 is possible, which is still bad, and it's at least partially caused by the exit to userspace and two system calls. If virtio_net At some point, the copying will hurt you. This is fairly easy to avoid on xmit tho. Cheers, Rusty. --
I am not 100% sure I know what you mean with "notification prevention", but let me take a stab at it. So like most of these kinds of constructs, I have two rings (rx + tx on the guest is reversed to tx + rx on the host), each of which can signal in either direction for a total of 4 events, 2 on each side of the connection. I utilize what I call "bidirectional napi" so that only the first packet submitted needs to signal across the guest/host boundary.=20 E.g. first ingress packet injects an interrupt, and then does a napi_schedule and masks future irqs. Likewise, first egress packet does a hypercall, and then does a "napi_schedule" (I dont actually use napi in this path, but its conceptually identical) and masks future hypercalls. So thats is my first form of what I would call notification prevention. The second form occurs on the "tx-complete" path (that is guest->host tx). I only signal back to the guest to reclaim its skbs every 10 packets, or if I drain the queue, whichever comes first (note to self: make this # configurable). The nice part about this scheme is it significantly reduces the amount of guest/host transitions, while still providing the lowest latency response for single packets possible. e.g. Send one packet, and you get one hypercall, and one tx-complete interrupt as soon as it queues on the hardware. Send 100 packets, and you get one hypercall and 10 tx-complete interrupts as frequently as every tenth packet queues on the hardware. There is no timer governing the flow, etc. But that is the whole point, isnt it? I created vbus specifically as a framework for putting things in the kernel, and that *is* one of the major reasons it is faster than virtio-net...its not the difference in, say, IOQs vs virtio-ring (though note I also think some of the innovations we have added such as bi-dir napi are helping too, but these are not "in-kernel" specific kinds of features and could probably help the userspace version too). I would be entirely happy ...
Good stab, though I was referring to guest->host signals (I'll assume you use a similar scheme there). You use a number of packets, qemu uses a timer (150usec), lguest uses a variable timer (starting at 500usec, dropping by 1 every time but increasing by 10 every time we get fewer packets than last time). So, if the guest sends two packets and stops, you'll hang indefinitely? That's why we use a timer, otherwise any mitigation scheme has this issue. Thanks, --
Oh, actually no. The guest->host path only uses the "bidir napi" thing I mentioned. So first packet hypercalls the host immediately with no delay, schedules my host-side "rx" thread, disables subsequent hypercalls, and returns to the guest. If the guest tries to send another packet before the time it takes the host to drain all queued skbs (in this case, 1), it will simply queue it to the ring with no additional hypercalls. Like typical napi ingress processing, the host will leave hypercalls disabled until it finds the ring empty, so this process can continue indefinitely until the host catches up. Once fully drained, the host will re-enable the hypercall channel and subsequent transmissions will repeat the original process. In summary, infrequent transmissions will tend to have one hypercall per packet. Bursty transmissions will have one hypercall per burst (starting immediately with the first packet). In both cases, we minimize the latency to get the first packet "out the door". So really the only place I am using a funky heuristic is the modulus 10 operation for tx-complete going host->guest. The rest are kind of Shouldn't, no. The host will send tx-complete interrupts at *max* every 10 packets, but if it drains the queue before the modulus 10 expires, it will send a tx-complete immediately, right before it re-enables hypercalls. So there is no hang, and there is no delay. For reference, here is the modulus 10 signaling (./drivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c, line 584): http://git.kernel.org/?p=3Dlinux/kernel/git/ghaskins/vbus/linux-2.6.git;a= =3Dblob;f=3Ddrivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c;h=3D0ccb7ed94a1a8edd0cca2694= 88f940f40fce20df;hb=3Dmaster#l584 Here is the one that happens after the queue is fully drained (line 593) http://git.kernel.org/?p=3Dlinux/kernel/git/ghaskins/vbus/linux-2.6.git;a= =3Dblob;f=3Ddrivers/vbus/devices/venet-tap.c;h=3D0ccb7ed94a1a8edd0cca2694= 88f940f40fce20df;hb=3Dmaster#l593 and finally, here is where I re-enable hypercalls ...
I doubt the userspace exit is the problem. On a modern system, it takes about 1us to do a light-weight exit and about 2us to do a heavy-weight exit. A transition to userspace is only about ~150ns, the bulk of the additional heavy-weight exit cost is from vcpu_put() within KVM. If you were to switch to another kernel thread, and I'm pretty sure you have to, you're going to still see about a 2us exit cost. Even if you factor in the two syscalls, we're still talking about less than .5us that you're saving. Avi mentioned he had some ideas to allow in-kernel thread switching without taking a heavy-weight exit but suffice to say, we can't do that today. You have no easy way to generate PCI interrupts in the kernel either. You'll most certainly have to drop down to userspace anyway for that. I believe the real issue is that we cannot get enough information today from tun/tap to do proper notification prevention b/c we don't know when the packet processing is completed. Regards, Anthony Liguori --
Just to inject some facts, servicing a ping via tap (ie host->guest then
guest->host response) takes 26 system calls from one qemu thread, 7 from
another (see strace below). Judging by those futex calls, multiple context
He switches to another thread, too, but with the right infrastructure (ie.
skb data destructors) we could skip this as well. (It'd be interesting to
see how virtual-bus performed on a single cpu host).
Cheers,
Rusty.
Pid 10260:
12:37:40.245785 select(17, [4 6 8 14 16], [], [], {0, 996000}) = 1 (in [6], left {0, 992000}) <0.003995>
12:37:40.250226 read(6, "\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0RT\0\0224V*\211\24\210`\304\10\0E\0"..., 69632) = 108 <0.000051>
12:37:40.250462 write(1, "tap read: 108 bytes\n", 20) = 20 <0.000197>
12:37:40.250800 ioctl(7, 0x4008ae61, 0x7fff8cafb3a0) = 0 <0.000223>
12:37:40.251149 read(6, 0x115c6ac, 69632) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) <0.000019>
12:37:40.251292 write(1, "tap read: -1 bytes\n", 19) = 19 <0.000085>
12:37:40.251488 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {1554, 633304282}) = 0 <0.000020>
12:37:40.251604 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {1554, 633413793}) = 0 <0.000019>
12:37:40.251717 futex(0xb81360, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 1) = 1 <0.001222>
12:37:40.253037 select(17, [4 6 8 14 16], [], [], {1, 0}) = 1 (in [16], left {1, 0}) <0.000026>
12:37:40.253196 read(16, "\16\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\376\377\377\377\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 128) = 128 <0.000022>
12:37:40.253324 rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, NULL, {0x406d50, ~[KILL STOP RTMIN RT_1], SA_RESTORER, 0x7f1a842430f0}, 8) = 0 <0.000018>
12:37:40.253477 write(5, "\0", 1) = 1 <0.000022>
12:37:40.253585 read(16, 0x7fff8cb09440, 128) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) <0.000020>
12:37:40.253687 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {1554, 635496181}) = 0 <0.000019>
12:37:40.253798 writev(6, [{"\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 10}, {"*\211\24\210`\304RT\0\0224V\10\0E\0\0T\255\262\0\0@\1G"..., 98}], 2) = 108 <0.000062>
12:37:40.253993 ioctl(7, 0x4008ae61, 0x7fff8caff460) = 0 <0.000161>
12:37:40.254263 ...Interesting stuff. Even if amortized over half a ring's worth of packets, that's quite a lot. Two threads are involved (we complete on the iothread, since we don't Should switch to epoll with its lower wait costs. Unfortunately the Looks like the interrupt from the iothread was injected and delivered before the iothread could give up the mutex, so we needed to wait here. -- I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this signature is too narrow to contain. --
N.B. we're not optimized for latency today. With the right infrastructure in userspace, I'm confident we could get this down. What we need is: 1) Lockless MMIO/PIO dispatch (there should be two IO registration interfaces, a new lockless one and the legacy one) 2) A virtio-net thread that's independent of the IO thread. It would be interesting to count the number of syscalls required in the lguest path since that should be a lot closer to optimal. Regards, Anthony Liguori --
Not sure exactly how much this is needed, since when there is no contention, locks are almost free (there's the atomic and cacheline bounce, but no syscall). For any long operations, we should drop the lock (of course we need some Yes -- that saves us all the select() prologue (calculating new timeout) and the select() itself. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function --
There should be no contention but I strongly suspect there is more often than we think. The IO thread can potentially hold the lock for a very long period of time. Take into consideration things like qcow2 metadata In an ideal world, we could do the submission via io_submit in the VCPU context, not worry about the copy latency (because we're zero copy). Then our packet transmission latency is consistently low because the path is consistent and lockless. This is why dropping the lock is so important, it's not enough to usually have low latency. We need to try and have latency as low as possible as often as possible. Regards, --
FWIW I don't really care whether we go with this or a kernel virtio_net backend. Either way should be good. However the status quo where we're stuck with a user-space backend really sucks! Thanks, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --
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