frame status API? (was: mac80211 truesize bugs)

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Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008 - 9:55 pm

> Whenever you run a monitor interface in mac80211, you can see lots of

Regardless of the fact that I'm pretty sure that we have bugs with
respect to pskb_expand_head in mac80211 that for some reason never show
up unless you add monitors, this re-injection of frames is quite a hack.

For one, it means that on a monitor interface you see every outgoing
frame, even if it wasn't sent on that interface. That's actually quite
nice, especially for debugging, but I think we can already see all
transmitted packets on the master interface.

Secondly, it means that actually injected packets show up twice, first
via dev_queue_xmit_nit and then via the status reporting.

Also, if we ever want to move towards an API where the driver need not
give a TX status report for every frame (some hardware cannot do this)
then this is at best a hack since we do not know the exact status for a
frame.

On the other hand, hostapd requires knowing whether a specific frame was
acknowledged.

Does anyone have any ideas how to implement such a status query for a
frame that was sent? What hostapd does is open a raw socket and simply
send a frame, but it needs to know whether that frame was acknowledged
so currently it also listens on a monitor and checks all outgoing
frames, which is suboptimal anyway.

The only thing I could so far think of is like the socket timestamps but
that seems rather bad to do for such a special case.

johannes
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mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Wed Apr 30, 10:02 pm)
frame status API? (was: mac80211 truesize bugs), Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 9:55 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Michael Buesch, (Thu May 1, 4:58 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 5:08 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Michael Buesch, (Thu May 1, 5:32 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 5:34 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 5:20 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 5:32 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 5:43 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Thu May 1, 6:36 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 6:49 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Thu May 1, 7:02 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 6:53 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 6:58 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Thu May 1, 7:03 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 8:38 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sat May 3, 8:59 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 12:03 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 6:56 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sat May 3, 7:07 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 7:15 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Fri May 2, 4:38 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Fri May 2, 7:33 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 7:52 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sat May 3, 9:03 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 9:42 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 10:09 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sat May 3, 10:02 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 10:08 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sat May 3, 10:12 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 10:22 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sat May 3, 11:16 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sun May 4, 6:38 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 4:47 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 5:14 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sun May 4, 5:44 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 5:52 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 7:25 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 8:28 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sun May 4, 8:45 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 10:06 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sun May 4, 6:45 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 6:48 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 12:03 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 1:47 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 8:52 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sun May 4, 8:56 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 9:00 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 8:48 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 5:37 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 10:25 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Mon May 12, 11:17 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, John W. Linville, (Tue May 13, 4:39 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Tue May 13, 4:59 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Tomas Winkler, (Tue May 13, 5:12 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Tue May 13, 5:37 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Tue May 13, 6:09 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 8:05 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 7:49 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 7:38 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 7:24 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sat May 3, 7:32 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 7:43 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 5:48 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 5:56 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 6:08 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 6:32 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 6:45 am)