Re: mac80211 truesize bugs

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To: David Miller <davem@...>
Cc: <herbert@...>, <mb@...>, <netdev@...>, <linux-wireless@...>
Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008 - 9:42 pm

> > Why don't we update the socket allocation when doing pskb_expand_head()=
?

Ok, that makes sense.


I'm still not sure about the dependencies between LL_MAX_HEADER,
dev->hard_header_len and similar. Why, for example, does ipip set it to
LL_MAX_HEADER + sizeof(struct iphdr)? Because it doesn't know better
since the packets it creates could be routed anywhere?

Could mac80211 announce it needs a very long hard_header_len (say 48 (or
54) bytes)? Am I right in thinking that then we'd have to increase
LL_MAX_HEADER as well? I haven't found a check somewhere that warns you
if you set dev->hard_header_len > LL_MAX_HEADER, should there be one?

If I increase dev->hard_header_len, will that have any negative impact
on the caching since I'm still just using regular ethernet headers?


As far as I understand we have a few options:

 (a) go along with it as we do now, use pskb_expand_head, just call
     skb_orphan before. I assume this has a number of requirements just
     like sock size accounting would have, does this work from within a
     hard_start_xmit path? I haven't seen any problems with it so far
     anyway.
 (b) clone the skb and free the original. pretty much equivalent
 (c) increase hard_header_len/LL_MAX_HEADER constants to 48 (54).

Options (a) and (b) make the accounting pretty useless since that would
drop the charge to the socket quite early. (c) doesn't seem to work, I
tried =EF=BB=BFjust increasing LL_MAX_HEADER doesn't seem to help although
MAX_TCP_HEADER suggests it should be getting enough headroom then.

Ideally, we'd have enough headroom in the skb to start with, since right
now we're apparently reallocating a lot, especially encrypted frames.
Not that I understand why we don't get a truesize bug (without the
monitors) when we do that.

With smart hardware like b43 we could even think about putting the
802.11 header stuff into a separate buffer and have the hardware to
gather-dma but there are so many dumb usb devices that this won't help
much anyway.

johannes
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mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Wed Apr 30, 10:02 pm)
frame status API? (was: mac80211 truesize bugs), Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 9:55 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Michael Buesch, (Thu May 1, 4:58 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 5:08 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Michael Buesch, (Thu May 1, 5:32 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 5:34 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 5:20 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 5:32 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 5:43 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Thu May 1, 6:36 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 6:49 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Thu May 1, 7:02 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 6:53 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 6:58 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Thu May 1, 7:03 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 8:38 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sat May 3, 8:59 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 12:03 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 6:56 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sat May 3, 7:07 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 7:15 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Fri May 2, 4:38 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Fri May 2, 7:33 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 7:52 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sat May 3, 9:03 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 9:42 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 10:09 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sat May 3, 10:02 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 10:08 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sat May 3, 10:12 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 10:22 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sat May 3, 11:16 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sun May 4, 6:38 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 4:47 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 5:14 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sun May 4, 5:44 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 5:52 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 7:25 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 8:28 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sun May 4, 8:45 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 10:06 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sun May 4, 6:45 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 6:48 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 12:03 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 1:47 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 8:52 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Herbert Xu, (Sun May 4, 8:56 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 9:00 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sun May 4, 8:48 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 5:37 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 10:25 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Mon May 12, 11:17 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, John W. Linville, (Tue May 13, 4:39 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Tue May 13, 4:59 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Tomas Winkler, (Tue May 13, 5:12 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Tue May 13, 5:37 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Tue May 13, 6:09 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 8:05 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 7:49 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 7:38 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 7:24 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Sat May 3, 7:32 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Sat May 3, 7:43 pm)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 5:48 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 5:56 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 6:08 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, David Miller, (Thu May 1, 6:32 am)
Re: mac80211 truesize bugs, Johannes Berg, (Thu May 1, 6:45 am)