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Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000

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To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@...>, Kok, Auke <auke-jan.h.kok@...>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...>, NetDev <netdev@...>, e1000-list <e1000-devel@...>, linux-pci maillist <linux-pci@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, David S. Miller <davem@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>, Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@...>, Ronciak, John <john.ronciak@...>, Allan, Bruce W <bruce.w.allan@...>, Greg KH <greg@...>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...>, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...>
Date: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 - 4:56 pm

Ingo Molnar wrote:

That's because PCI ID transitions are extremely, extremely rare.

Not because this transition is particularly unusual.



Agreed -- hence the multiple announcements, including in this thread, to 
put said details into mind.

It's an unusual situation, thus it received announcements so that people 
are aware of the transition taking place, and what to do about it.



"makes no sense"...  for your personal situation.

They are two independent drivers, and that's a valid mix of Kconfig 
settings.

Someone could easily have an e1000 card in an e1000e machine, and come 
up with that specific config mix.

It is not denial to say "people other than Ingo might validly choose 
that config mix."



Overall, fundamentally, any transition of a user base from one driver to 
another is going to be an ad-hoc process.  That's the nature of the 
problem -- each case is different.

So we avoid driver transitions if at all possible, as a general rule. 
In this case, a rare exception to that rule, you have to hammer out a 
user-education process as best you can.

	Jeff


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showing which hardware is unclaimed, Rick Jones, (Tue Apr 8, 4:13 pm)
Re: showing which hardware is unclaimed, Martin Mares, (Tue Apr 8, 4:35 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Dan Noe, (Tue Apr 8, 4:12 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue Apr 8, 4:20 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Dan Noe, (Tue Apr 8, 4:39 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Apr 8, 4:35 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Martin Mares, (Tue Apr 8, 4:36 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Bill Davidsen, (Wed Apr 9, 8:52 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Apr 11, 4:59 am)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Apr 8, 3:56 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Apr 8, 4:06 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Kok, Auke, (Tue Apr 8, 4:31 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Apr 9, 3:12 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Jeff Garzik, (Wed Apr 9, 3:33 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Apr 11, 7:30 am)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Chris Friesen, (Fri Apr 11, 11:40 am)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Willy Tarreau, (Fri Apr 11, 3:29 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Apr 8, 4:19 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Apr 8, 4:33 pm)
Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Apr 8, 4:56 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Chris Friesen, (Thu Apr 10, 5:20 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Ingo Molnar, (Thu Apr 10, 3:27 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Apr 11, 7:26 am)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 11, 7:36 am)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Apr 11, 8:16 am)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Martin Mares, (Fri Apr 11, 1:10 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Christoph Hellwig, (Fri Apr 11, 12:45 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Apr 11, 1:34 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Daniel Barkalow, (Fri Apr 11, 6:06 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Apr 11, 7:00 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Jeff Garzik, (Fri Apr 11, 7:43 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Apr 13, 5:13 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Ondrej Zary, (Sun Apr 13, 5:34 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Christoph Hellwig, (Sat Apr 12, 9:07 am)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Daniel Barkalow, (Fri Apr 11, 7:15 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Jeff Garzik, (Fri Apr 11, 6:21 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Daniel Barkalow, (Fri Apr 11, 7:05 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Matthew Wilcox, (Fri Apr 11, 1:53 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Apr 11, 2:51 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Krzysztof Halasa, (Fri Apr 11, 4:22 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Apr 11, 4:29 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Matthew Wilcox, (Fri Apr 11, 3:01 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Apr 11, 4:21 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Willy Tarreau, (Fri Apr 11, 3:25 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Matthew Wilcox, (Fri Apr 11, 3:38 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Philip Craig, (Thu Apr 10, 8:46 pm)
Re: [patch] e1000=y &amp;&amp; e1000e=m regression fix, Randy Dunlap, (Thu Apr 10, 5:44 pm)
Re: [E1000-devel] [regression] e1000e broke e1000, Kok, Auke, (Tue Apr 8, 4:47 pm)
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