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Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC

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To: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...>
Cc: James Chapman <jchapman@...>, David Miller <davem@...>, <alan@...>, <akpm@...>, <jeff@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <netdev@...>
Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 5:46 pm

Krzysztof Halasa wrote:

I maintain both pppd and generic HDLC PPP
interfaces for the synclink drivers.
I would like to have a single PPP implementation,
but what Krzysztof writes about compatibility and complexity
(both in coding and user configuration) is a real issue.

Many customers who choose to use generic HDLC PPP are *dead*
set against the added complexity and (user space)
components of using pppd even though it has more features.
I say that having tried to persuade such users to use pppd.
The response is usually "support the simpler generic
HDLC PPP way of doing things or we will go elsewhere".
Others require the extra features of pppd.

I understand customer desires are not always rational
or a primary concern when making these architectural
decisions, but I know forcing the extra complexity and
components of pppd on generic HDLC users will cause a
lot of anger and defections.

-- 
Paul Fulghum
Microgate Systems, Ltd.
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WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Mar 12, 2:21 pm)
[PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Fri Mar 14, 10:20 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Tue Mar 25, 10:39 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Fri Apr 11, 5:35 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 12, 1:14 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sat Apr 12, 4:10 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Apr 12, 4:50 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sat Apr 12, 3:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sat Apr 12, 4:19 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Fri Apr 18, 11:58 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Fri Apr 18, 6:32 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon Apr 21, 11:30 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, James Chapman, (Mon Apr 21, 3:31 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Tue Apr 22, 3:06 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Paul Fulghum, (Tue Apr 22, 5:46 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Tue Apr 22, 6:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Paul Fulghum, (Tue Apr 22, 7:52 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Apr 22, 4:50 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, James Chapman, (Tue Apr 22, 6:23 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Tue Apr 22, 6:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Tue Apr 22, 6:05 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Apr 23, 1:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Wed Apr 23, 6:49 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Apr 23, 8:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Wed Apr 23, 9:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Thu Apr 24, 9:12 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Thu Apr 24, 9:30 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Thu Apr 24, 9:39 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Thu Apr 24, 9:55 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Thu Apr 24, 4:46 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Mon May 12, 6:32 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed May 14, 12:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed May 14, 8:45 am)
[PATCH] WAN: protect HDLC proto list while insmod/rmmod, Krzysztof Halasa, (Mon May 19, 1:00 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Fri Apr 25, 7:10 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Thu Apr 24, 4:50 pm)
RE: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P, (Mon Apr 14, 3:16 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Mon Apr 14, 5:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Jeff Garzik, (Tue Mar 25, 10:55 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Tue Mar 25, 11:50 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Mar 26, 7:05 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, David Miller, (Tue Mar 25, 7:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Mar 26, 11:01 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Apr 12, 5:12 am)
[PATCH] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Mar 12, 2:30 pm)
Re: [PATCH] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Mar 12, 3:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Mar 12, 4:10 pm)
Re: [PATCH] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Jan Engelhardt, (Wed Mar 12, 6:12 pm)
Re: [PATCH] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Fri Mar 14, 10:16 am)
Re: [PATCH] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Stephen Hemminger, (Wed Mar 12, 2:52 pm)
Re: [PATCH] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC, Krzysztof Halasa, (Wed Mar 12, 3:25 pm)
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