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To: David Miller <davem@...>
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Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 3:32 pm

On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:32:07AM -0800, David Miller wrote:

Strongly agree.

This is exactly what happened to that ARM NO_HZ bug report.  The report
in bugzilla was rather lacking (and wrong) in ways that have already
been described.  HPET on ARM? 8)

Then on the morning of 6th November, someone reported on the mailing list
that "pxa270 doesn't work with oneshot timer" and that was the trigger to
getting the bug resolved - because it was a narrowly defined bug report.

Since it was a narrowly defined bug report, it became very easy to
investigate and resolve.  About half an hour of time for an initial
patch.


There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla.  We have the
classic case of "not enough people reading bugzilla bugs" - which is one
of the biggest problems with bugzilla.  Virtually no one in the ARM
community looks for ARM bugs in bugzilla.

Let's not forget that it would be a waste of time for people to manually
check bugzilla for ARM bugs.  There's soo few people reporting ARM bugs
into bugzilla that a weekly manual check by every maintainer would just
return the same old boring results for months and months at a time.

It would be far more productive if the ARM category was deleted from
bugzilla and the few people who use bugzilla reported their bugs on the
mailing list.  We've a couple of thousand people on the ARM kernel
mailing list at the moment - that's 3 orders of magnitude more of eyes
than look at bugzilla.

(I'm not saying that if the ARM NO_HZ bug as reported in bugzilla had
been reported on the correct mailing list would've been solved earlier;
I doubt there'd be much difference.  However, the probability of a
question being asked of the reporter would've been much higher, and
_that_ might have led to an earlier resolution.)

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
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[BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Natalie Protasevich, (Tue Nov 13, 2:42 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 7:15 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Pavel Machek, (Wed Nov 14, 9:24 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Wed Nov 14, 3:52 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Fabio Comolli, (Wed Nov 14, 10:14 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Jiri Kosina, (Wed Nov 14, 8:46 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz..., (Tue Nov 13, 11:21 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 9:58 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Nov 13, 12:07 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 1:54 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Nov 13, 6:46 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 7:37 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 1:47 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 2:10 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Alan Cox, (Tue Nov 13, 2:25 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 6:34 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ben Dooks, (Thu Nov 15, 4:16 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 10:18 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Nov 13, 12:08 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 2:04 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Jan Kara, (Tue Nov 13, 1:49 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Alan Cox, (Tue Nov 13, 11:36 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Jarek Poplawski, (Tue Nov 13, 7:47 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Evgeniy Polyakov, (Tue Nov 13, 7:33 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Jens Axboe, (Tue Nov 13, 7:24 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Tue Nov 13, 7:39 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 7:49 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Tue Nov 13, 7:58 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 8:12 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Nov 13, 9:40 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 10:08 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Giacomo A. Catenazzi, (Tue Nov 13, 11:24 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ray Lee, (Tue Nov 13, 11:57 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 1:01 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Romano Giannetti, (Tue Nov 13, 1:50 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Frans Pop, (Tue Nov 13, 6:03 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Benoit Boissinot, (Tue Nov 13, 11:52 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Theodore Tso, (Tue Nov 13, 1:13 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Daniel Barkalow, (Wed Nov 14, 7:23 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Theodore Tso, (Thu Nov 15, 11:30 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Daniel Barkalow, (Thu Nov 15, 12:19 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Larry Finger, (Tue Nov 13, 1:33 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Theodore Tso, (Tue Nov 13, 2:55 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Larry Finger, (Tue Nov 13, 4:07 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 1:56 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Gabriel C, (Tue Nov 13, 2:57 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Denys Vlasenko, (Tue Nov 13, 8:41 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Denys Vlasenko, (Tue Nov 13, 8:39 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Wed Nov 14, 3:27 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Denys Vlasenko, (Wed Nov 14, 3:46 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Kok, Auke, (Wed Nov 14, 2:27 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Matthew Wilcox, (Wed Nov 14, 9:30 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Hannes Reinecke, (Wed Nov 14, 9:35 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Alan Cox, (Tue Nov 13, 1:30 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Nov 13, 12:49 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 3:37 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 4:18 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 7:40 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Tue Nov 13, 9:56 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Jörn, (Tue Nov 13, 5:33 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 6:29 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 5:56 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Jörn, (Tue Nov 13, 6:24 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 6:43 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Denys Vlasenko, (Tue Nov 13, 8:34 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Nov 13, 12:46 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 1:50 pm)
size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs), Pavel Machek, (Sun Nov 18, 8:44 am)
Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs), Willy Tarreau, (Mon Nov 19, 12:43 am)
Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs), James Bottomley, (Sun Nov 18, 10:35 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue Nov 13, 2:39 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 2:43 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue Nov 13, 2:49 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 2:54 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 14, 10:30 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Larry Finger, (Wed Nov 14, 10:49 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Nov 13, 6:09 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 2:12 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 2:18 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 2:36 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 2:47 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 3:04 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 3:26 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 4:00 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 4:13 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 5:20 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Alan Cox, (Tue Nov 13, 5:12 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Chuck Ebbert, (Tue Nov 13, 8:52 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Stephen Hemminger, (Tue Nov 13, 9:11 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 10:10 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Mark Lord, (Tue Nov 13, 3:12 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 3:30 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 3:46 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 4:04 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Tue Nov 13, 9:10 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Peter Zijlstra, (Tue Nov 13, 2:17 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Randy Dunlap, (Tue Nov 13, 12:55 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 14, 10:08 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 3:56 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 14, 4:48 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, , (Wed Nov 14, 5:05 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, James Bottomley, (Wed Nov 14, 4:09 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 14, 4:54 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Randy Dunlap, (Wed Nov 14, 1:38 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 14, 4:16 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Randy Dunlap, (Wed Nov 14, 4:29 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 14, 4:37 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Randy Dunlap, (Wed Nov 14, 5:05 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, J. Bruce Fields, (Wed Nov 14, 2:23 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Tue Nov 13, 8:32 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 3:32 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Nov 13, 4:13 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 7:29 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 7:38 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 4:52 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 6:18 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Sam Ravnborg, (Wed Nov 14, 1:56 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Sam Ravnborg, (Wed Nov 14, 1:59 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 2:13 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 6:32 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Tue Nov 13, 7:09 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 7:17 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Tue Nov 13, 9:55 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Wed Nov 14, 5:55 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 6:07 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Wed Nov 14, 3:44 pm)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Rene Herman, (Wed Nov 14, 7:46 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Bron Gondwana, (Thu Nov 15, 12:16 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Rene Herman, (Thu Nov 15, 1:59 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Olivier Galibert, (Thu Nov 15, 9:17 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Takashi Iwai, (Thu Nov 15, 5:34 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Bron Gondwana, (Thu Nov 15, 8:02 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Rene Herman, (Thu Nov 15, 8:26 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Jörn, (Thu Nov 15, 9:00 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Rene Herman, (Thu Nov 15, 10:29 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 7:56 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Rene Herman, (Wed Nov 14, 8:09 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 8:01 am)
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Rene Herman, (Wed Nov 14, 8:12 am)
Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs), Takashi Iwai, (Wed Nov 14, 4:25 am)
Re: Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs), Rene Herman, (Wed Nov 14, 8:21 am)
Re: Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs), Takashi Iwai, (Wed Nov 14, 5:47 am)
Re: Moderated list, David Miller, (Wed Nov 14, 7:23 pm)
Re: Moderated list, Rene Herman, (Thu Nov 15, 2:09 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 10:27 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Russell King, (Wed Nov 14, 4:30 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, David Miller, (Tue Nov 13, 11:47 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Andrew Morton, (Tue Nov 13, 3:02 pm)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, James Bottomley, (Tue Nov 13, 11:33 am)
Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs, Randy Dunlap, (Tue Nov 13, 12:43 pm)
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