Re: [KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode

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From: Zachary Amsden
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 5:17 pm

On 08/25/2010 12:01 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:

Technically, that may not be quite correct.

<digression into weeds>

The RDTSC instruction will return a monotonically increasing unique 
value, but the execution and retirement of the instruction are 
unserialized.  So technically, two simultaneous RDTSC could be issued to 
multiple execution units, and they may either return the same values, or 
the earlier one may stall and complete after the latter.

rdtsc
mov %eax, %ebx
mov %edx, %ecx
rdtsc
cmp %edx, %ecx
jb fail
cmp %ebx, %eax
jae fail
jmp good
fail:
int3
good:
ret

If execution of RDTSC is restricted to a single issue unit, this can 
never fail.  If it can be issued simultaneously in multiple units, it 
can fail because register renaming may end up sorting the instruction 
stream and removing dependencies so it can be executed as:

     UNIT 1                              UNIT 2
rdtsc                                 rdtsc
mov %eax, %ebx              (store to local %edx, %eax)
mov %edx, %ecx              cmp %ebx, local %eax
                                         (commit local %edx, %eax to 
global register)
cmp %edx, %ecx
jb fail
                                          jae fail

Both failure modes can be observed if this is indeed the case.  I'm not 
aware that anything is specifically done to maintain the serialization 
internally, and as the architecture actually specifically states that 
RDTSC is unserialized, I doubt anything to prevent this situation is done.

</digression into weeds>

However, that's not the pertinent issue.  If the clock is very low res, 
we don't present a higher granularity TSC to the guest.

While there are things that can be done to ensure that (add 1 for each 
read, estimate with TSC..), they have problems of their own and in 
generally will make things very messy.

Given the above digression, I'm not sure that any code written to run 
with such guarantees is actually sound.

It is plausible, however, someone does

count of some value / (TSC2 - TSC1)

and ends up with a divide by zero.  So it may be better to bump the 
counter by at least one for each call.
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[KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode, Zachary Amsden, (Fri Aug 20, 1:07 am)
Re: [KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode, Marcelo Tosatti, (Wed Aug 25, 10:27 am)
Re: [KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode, Zachary Amsden, (Wed Aug 25, 1:48 pm)
Re: [KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode, Marcelo Tosatti, (Wed Aug 25, 3:01 pm)
Re: [KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode, Glauber Costa, (Wed Aug 25, 4:38 pm)
Re: [KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode, Zachary Amsden, (Wed Aug 25, 5:17 pm)