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From: Jan Engelhardt
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Re: [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6]
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 1:08 am
On Friday 2010-07-30 23:22, utz lehmann wrote:
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>On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:40 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> But the fact is, th Unix ctime semantics are insane and largely >> useless. There's a damn good reason almost nobody uses ctime under >> unix. >> >> So what I'm suggesting is that we have a flag - either per-process or >> per-mount - that just says "use windows semantics for ctime". > >When abusing an existing time stamp use atime not ctime please. >ctime has it's uses. atime was just a mistake and is nearly useless.
MUAs make use of atime.
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>And with noatime we already have creation time semantics for atime.
noatime was a late afterthought, and because it can interfere with some programs, relatime came along too. --
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[PATCH 00/18] Extended file stat functions [ver #6]
, David Howells
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, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 05/18] xstat: eCryptFS: Return extended attributes ...
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, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 06/18] xstat: Ext4: Return extended attributes [ver #6]
, David Howells
, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 07/18] xstat: NFS: Return extended attributes [ver #6]
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, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 08/18] xstat: CIFS: Return extended attributes [ver #6]
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, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 09/18] xstat: Make special system filesystems retur ...
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, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 10/18] xstat: Make network filesystems return FS_RE ...
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, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
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[PATCH 12/18] xstat: Add a dentry op to handle automountin ...
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, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
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, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 15/18] xstat: CIFS: Use d_automount() rather than a ...
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, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 16/18] xstat: Remove the automount through follow_l ...
, David Howells
, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 17/18] xstat: Add an AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT flag to suppre ...
, David Howells
, (Wed Jul 14, 7:17 pm)
[PATCH 18/18] xstat: Provide a mechanism to gather extra r ...
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, (Fri Jul 16, 4:02 am)
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, Christoph Hellwig
, (Sun Jul 18, 1:50 am)
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, Christoph Hellwig
, (Sun Jul 18, 1:51 am)
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, David Howells
, (Mon Jul 19, 7:05 am)
Re: [PATCH 12/18] xstat: Add a dentry op to handle automou ...
, David Howells
, (Mon Jul 19, 7:10 am)
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, Linus Torvalds
, (Mon Jul 19, 8:17 am)
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, David Howells
, (Mon Jul 19, 9:15 am)
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, Linus Torvalds
, (Mon Jul 19, 9:51 am)
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, David Howells
, (Mon Jul 19, 10:26 am)
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, (Mon Jul 19, 10:46 am)
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, Jan Engelhardt
, (Thu Jul 22, 3:52 am)
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, Trond Myklebust
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, (Thu Jul 22, 6:03 pm)
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, (Thu Jul 22, 7:12 pm)
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, (Fri Jul 23, 2:14 am)
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, (Sat Jul 31, 9:53 am)
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, utz lehmann
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, (Sat Jul 31, 11:41 am)
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, Jan Engelhardt
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, Trond Myklebust
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, (Sun Aug 1, 6:40 am)
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, Neil Brown
, (Sat Aug 7, 4:04 am)
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